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Mork said:
Well, they used to be the emperors of Byzanz - until they got shipped to Trebizond ...
Sikker said:
I like your title
.BTW the "king" of Byzans' last name is (in 1066) Ducas.
If they are the ones, then I have posted a screenie of 'em somewhere...
hey! how did that happen? Okay... was that historical? IRL did that happen? And how do the HRE exist in terms of game play? like in EU2? And did they happen by event?explain please
Wow. It looks like Bastard Bill has overreached himself. And where are the Turks?
Still, as long as it doesn't happen like this every time I'm kool.
Free Durham! Free Durham!
Still, as long as it doesn't happen like this every time I'm kool.
Free Durham! Free Durham!
Wow, the HRE didn't even last 30 years.I'll bet you had a strong hand in it's downfall no?
Mork said:
All of the scenarios just miss out on their best period, which is a little odd for a game called Crusader Kings, as Alexios I really started the Crusade ball rolling. Perhaps a future scenario starting just before the First Crusade might include them better.
In 1066 they are likely to show up somewhere as Byzantine vassals, but in which province I do not know (I think the family lands were in the Asian half of the Empire though. Cappadocia? not sure). The head of the family should be John/Ioannes Comnenus/Komnenos (don't know which of these or several other spelling variations will be used in the game) as he died in 1067, married to Anna Dalassene/a. The person most people will probably want to see will be his third son, the shining light of the family, Alexios, probably born some time around the early to mid-1050s, so he may not have a portrait yet beyond the generic child silhouette.
In 1187 they are of virtually no importance, and may not even be in the game at all, as the main imperial branch was killed off in 1183 by a usurping cousin, who was himself done in (torn to bits by a mob if I remember correctly) in 1185. However, it is possible that Manuel son of the last (probably in his upper 30s in 1187) may be floating around in the game somewhere (possibly in Georgia?) as an exile, along with his infant son Alexios, future founder of the "Empire" of Trebizond.
In 1337 they should definitely be back in the game (if they were ever out of it) in the person of Basil/Basileios, Emperor of Trebizond.
Mork: The Comneni should be a Byzantine noble family in 1066, probably ruling one of the vassal principalities to the Emperor. If you see Alexius Comnenus somewhere, that's them.
I had absolutely nothing to do with it (I'd wish though, it would have been so cool, to destroy the biggest kingdom ), and I don't know how it happened. It started (methinks) with Bohemia breaking away from HRE (the Bohemian duke starting a kingdom of his own), a symptom of low-loyalty vassals (a BAD thing). It could also be that the "king" of HRE changed the inheritance laws from elective and into someting asuring his family (a bad move for a kingdom that large, very bad).
), and I don't know how it happened. It started (methinks) with Bohemia breaking away from HRE (the Bohemian duke starting a kingdom of his own), a symptom of low-loyalty vassals (a BAD thing). It could also be that the "king" of HRE changed the inheritance laws from elective and into someting asuring his family (a bad move for a kingdom that large, very bad).
lol Switzerland has gone mad lol quite ammusing nice to see Brandenburg geting a foothold in Magdeburg, some of those minors have a long way to go, but im geting so thursty for this game now.
nice to see Brandenburg geting a foothold in Magdeburg, some of those minors have a long way to go, but im geting so thursty for this game now.
Now I have secured all of Finland, and I am waiting for Svend to die(my next conquest will be something christian, which is harder, no need for my king to die in the middle of that), but he wont die! He's 78 right now.
His personal stats from my last save:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 101515 }
dyn = 485
tag = DENM
name = "Svend"
date = "10180910"
gender = male
religion = catholic
culture = "danish"
score = { gold = 6840.891 prestige = 4875.943 piety = 599.757 }
attributes = {
martial = 2.000
diplomacy = 6.000
intrigue = 6.000
stewardship = 7.000
health = 7.000
fertility = 7.000
}
traits = {
lustful = yes
zealous = yes
wise = yes
stress_symptom = yes
midas_touched = yes
}
father = { type = 10 id = 101535 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 101509 }
loyalty = 0.000
dna = "08964469169520"
}
What should I do now?
I cannot go on major conquests, for if Svend dies in the middle of it, the consequences could be quite big.
My fav. son is my youngest (it's the fourth time I've changed favorite )
My almost-as-favorite son:
His personal stats from my last save:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 101515 }
dyn = 485
tag = DENM
name = "Svend"
date = "10180910"
gender = male
religion = catholic
culture = "danish"
score = { gold = 6840.891 prestige = 4875.943 piety = 599.757 }
attributes = {
martial = 2.000
diplomacy = 6.000
intrigue = 6.000
stewardship = 7.000
health = 7.000
fertility = 7.000
}
traits = {
lustful = yes
zealous = yes
wise = yes
stress_symptom = yes
midas_touched = yes
}
father = { type = 10 id = 101535 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 101509 }
loyalty = 0.000
dna = "08964469169520"
}
What should I do now?
I cannot go on major conquests, for if Svend dies in the middle of it, the consequences could be quite big.
My fav. son is my youngest (it's the fourth time I've changed favorite
)
My almost-as-favorite son:
KonigMaximilian said:lol Switzerland has gone mad lol quite ammusing
It's not Switzerland, it's two different duchies (can't remember which though), one of 'em is going down (they are at war with France and a couple of others, and loosing)
At least the collapse of Germany gives us some clue as to HRE's internal structure.
Did you notice anything happening in Anatolia around 1071?
Judging from the family tree you are not in fact Harik's father
Did you notice anything happening in Anatolia around 1071?
Judging from the family tree you are not in fact Harik's father
Mork said:But I have done that (somewhere
yes Gent,
but I still need Holland and the eastern provinces of the low countries, if possible with and without shiels, because sometimes ist's difficult to read the name of the provinces,
snuggs said:
I thought you were from the North. The North rebelled in like 68-69 (I dunno too early right now) when the Danes invaded and William destroyed entire towns throughout the North-East. So it is sort of historical to have the rebellion.. just seems a little late.
(Please feel free to correct my dates...)
snuggs said:Judging from the family tree you are not in fact Harik's father
Yes, that is true, I just confused things a bit.
Harik is the son of Svends first-born Harald.
hmm...i looked your endless bag of money and began to wonder. are the incomes to big?(is it too easy to earn money, or there just ain't enough ways to spend it?)
