I just found this out

[unmerged(15658)]

I didn't realize that during a peace negotiation that the alliance splits the ducats. The ones that take part in the war anyway. All you experienced players with the mega posts probable know this already. Adds a new dimension to "hanging tough" when you go to war for an ally.

 

[Nikolai II]

Live and learn

Another point that took me a while to learn was that when the AI asks you for 0 ducats in peace it is actually asking for whatever fraction of a ducat you have in your treasury (0.02 or whatever) so accepting two such offers at once will make you take a loan..

 

[Carolus Rex]

I played EU1 for about 1,5 years and I still didn't master all aspects when I move on to EU2...

 

[saskganesh]

its useful for maintaining firendly allies too. say if you have six stars going into a peace agreement; you take 2 provinces (2 stars each) plus "250 GP" in the peace. whatever money you get will be split somehow among you and your allies, which means they won't be as quite upset with your BB spiking up because of your conquests.

note that AI never offers cash. so for this reason, you will be turning down some of his proposed peace offers --say for 2 provinces only --and using one of your diplomats to ask for cash as well.

 

[unmerged(10069)]

Originally posted by saskganesh

note that AI never offers cash. so for this reason, you will be turning down some of his proposed peace offers --say for 2 provinces only --and using one of your diplomats to ask for cash as well.

Uh, he doesn’t?
*thinking*
Uh, he demands cash now and then, but offers…maybe not.

Why did they not implement this in the AI?

 

[saskganesh]

Originally posted by Perrygreat
Uh, he doesn’t?
*thinking*
Uh, he demands cash now and then, but offers…maybe not.

Why did they not implement this in the AI?

check it out. AI will demand, but never supply.

as to why, i have no idea...its a minor thing.

 

[Matija]

Originally posted by saskganesh
check it out. AI will demand, but never supply.

as to why, i have no idea...its a minor thing.

It's fixed in EU2

 

[Morpheus506]

That's not quite true. I once had persia offer me 113 ducats in peace. That's the only time that's happened though.

 

[saskganesh]

Originally posted by Morpheus506
That's not quite true. I once had persia offer me 113 ducats in peace. That's the only time that's happened though.

!

did you hold the capital? they must have been desperate.

 

[Morpheus506]

Can't quite remember... I may have, but I think it would be more likely that I had defeated all their armies and halfway conquered most of their allies, including one vassal (Mameluks). Maybe it was a combination of both. As I said, I can't remember, as it was a while ago.

 

[unmerged(15658)]

I've never been offered cash, but quite a few times I have been offered 3 provinces....6 stars. Now when I make the demand, of all the stars redded out I never receive it!

 

[unmerged(13397)]

Yes, AI never accepts to give 3 prov when you ask them, but if they are desperate enough they will offer 3 (of course always offering the worse ones you control).
So if I'm strong enough to have choice, but not enough to go for annexion, a good strategy is to conquer/control ONLY the 3 "value" provinces I'm aiming to and the enemy capital (without further conquest), and then patiently wait until AI offers exactly those 3 provs for peace.

 

[Morpheus506]

My strategy is to capture two provinces that I want and the capital, and ask for those two and 250d. Never fails!

 

[unmerged(10894)]

*Almost* never fails. Sometimes if you are a minor and you are up against a superpower (France or Spain) they tend to knock a few stars off a total before they'll even consider it.