I just bought EUII after searching for it for a good while. Sure, I've played it before at my friends house when I were there, but I'm not all that experienced and I wonder which nation would be good to start with?
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I think the most powerful and easiest nations to play with are catholic Spain, France, England, Austria, islamic Ottoman Empire or buddhist China.
I've tried all of them and I was entusiastic of my empires especially of the Chinese and the Ottoman ones.
I've tried all of them and I was entusiastic of my empires especially of the Chinese and the Ottoman ones.
France in 1492 is probably the best. Granada in 1492 probably the worst.
I wouldn't play Austria or the OE right away, but they can make a very fun second game
China is evil. And Slargos is evil for mentioning it
I wouldn't play Austria or the OE right away, but they can make a very fun second game
China is evil. And Slargos is evil for mentioning it
Okey, an update:
I happily started out as France in the 1419 scenario (very easy/furious) and jumped right into the 100 years war. I quickly took Franche Comté from Burgundy and then made peace. During that, I took occupied as many British provinces as possible. After the defeat of Burgundy, I took on Britain with my full strength. It didn't take me long to be attacked by Navarra and Brittany. Okey, I gave Navarra some room to play, because I couldn't get an army sizing theirs yet, but I acted against Brittany when I could get men to spare. Brittany were fairly easy to defeat, but during the time Lorraine mixed into the war and gave me some quick trouble. I defeated them quickly, though, and annexed them. During that time Artois broke free. Since Artois is a core I grabbed the opportunity, since it normally belongs to Burgundy. I annexed that too, and in the peace deal with Brittany I took Bretagne and Armor, and thus reducing Brittany to a one-province nation. Somewhere in there, Navarra and I signed a white peace. Okey, only unstable England left (-2 stability). Fairly easy, you would think. But no, I had to go over to the island and conquer Cornwall and Bristol to get them giving away all their French possessions, which had been controlled by me a good while. Okey, after that I finally convinced them to give me all the provinces on the continent. But what to do now? Conquer my Navarran cores or build up my relations (-64 with most nations)?
I happily started out as France in the 1419 scenario (very easy/furious) and jumped right into the 100 years war. I quickly took Franche Comté from Burgundy and then made peace. During that, I took occupied as many British provinces as possible. After the defeat of Burgundy, I took on Britain with my full strength. It didn't take me long to be attacked by Navarra and Brittany. Okey, I gave Navarra some room to play, because I couldn't get an army sizing theirs yet, but I acted against Brittany when I could get men to spare. Brittany were fairly easy to defeat, but during the time Lorraine mixed into the war and gave me some quick trouble. I defeated them quickly, though, and annexed them. During that time Artois broke free. Since Artois is a core I grabbed the opportunity, since it normally belongs to Burgundy. I annexed that too, and in the peace deal with Brittany I took Bretagne and Armor, and thus reducing Brittany to a one-province nation. Somewhere in there, Navarra and I signed a white peace. Okey, only unstable England left (-2 stability). Fairly easy, you would think. But no, I had to go over to the island and conquer Cornwall and Bristol to get them giving away all their French possessions, which had been controlled by me a good while. Okey, after that I finally convinced them to give me all the provinces on the continent. But what to do now? Conquer my Navarran cores or build up my relations (-64 with most nations)?
Watch out for your badboy. You should certainly pick up the rest of your cores (especially the Burgundian ones), but try to avoid force-annexing unless it's your only choice.
See if you can't diplo-annex one of the French minors....
See if you can't diplo-annex one of the French minors....
Those guys (Auvergne, Boubonnais) are already in your alliance, and are already your vassals (and you have a common border). By 1429 if you have relations of +190 to +200 and are both at peace you can 'offer annex' to them. If they accept they become part of your country and you get many fewer badboy points than if you fought them.
Also, make the offer when your stability is high and their army isn't too big..
Also, make the offer when your stability is high and their army isn't too big..
Muscovy in 1419 scenario. Good start for a new player, challenging enough to push you to learn, yet easy enough that it would be quite difficult to get annexed. Ally Poland/Lithuania for an easy time.
Check the last line of my sig to get some hints/suggestions/hindsight about a France 1419 game. Only caveat is that it's for 1.07 (tough changes in 1.08 are often explained, and there's not a lot of changes).
And welcome in the EU2 Community.
And welcome in the EU2 Community.
lawkeeper said:And welcome in the EU2 Community.
Thanks.
By the way, ATM I've only been able to check out your guide briefly. What does minting mean?
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Minting is putting the treasury slider (in the budget screen) anywhere except at the full left.Wämö said:Thanks.
By the way, ATM I've only been able to check out your guide briefly. What does minting mean?
Minting is getting money in your treasury instead of dumping all monthly income in the tech research. This always gives some inflation, and inflation may kill you if you don't use that money to increase your economy by a larger margin than the extra inflation decreases your 'buying power'.
Make a search in the EU2 Discussion forum with the key-word 'inflation', and you'll find heaps of threads about it.
lawkeeper said:Make a search in the EU2 Discussion forum with the key-word 'inflation', and you'll find heaps of threads about it.
After what I've heard about inflation, it's pretty hard to lower it, right?
Just wanted you welcome you Wamo. Welcome to the personal hell that is EU. It will suck hours of your life, invade your mind during work, sleep, school, sex, whatever it is that you might do. There will be times when you'll hate the game so much after getting plague events, fires, and rebellion events, but you'll still anxiously await the next time you can play.
Anyway, enjoy your stay here! I have never been at a nicer forum full of extremely helpful, intelligent people from all walks of life. You guys rock!
Anyway, enjoy your stay here! I have never been at a nicer forum full of extremely helpful, intelligent people from all walks of life. You guys rock!
Clearly he's joking. You won't have any sex after you've bought EUII.Wämö said:Even under sex?
Wämö said:After what I've heard about inflation, it's pretty hard to lower it, right?
Yes.. at least until Governors are available and/or the deflation events kick in.
Theres no point in playing on very easy the AI is pathetic...
start on normal/furious...
start on normal/furious...