I hope the Russians love their neighbours too. A short Russian AAR 1492-1560

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Originally posted by Sapura:
Well, the idea of a Muscovite army going onto Warsaw in this scenario is in my opinion a bit of a stretch, especially since Moscow was being torn to pieces. In reality they would have gone to Moscow to relieve it. That's the only thing I don't like about it ..

Same in other cases, not just Poland-Muscovy.

Sap.

Yes ... I do see that as a bit of a stretch to reality, too. Perhaps there could be something saying that if a country takes an opposing capital, their own capital must not be under siege, or else you cannot force more than just a white peace or only a minor victory.

 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
France has completely annexed a substantial amount of distant landlocked territory Maybe they just wanted some Tokay...

Or wanted to show Hungarian what become of fools trying to compete against French wines on the international markets...
In fact, French force landed in poland and then marched to Hungary, conquered all provinces and annexed it. But now, as Poland is crippled, French Hungary is a strange landlocked Island.
I shall try to make a capture of the political map and post it here, so that you can judge by yourselves...

 

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Originally posted by Tom:
Yes ... I do see that as a bit of a stretch to reality, too. Perhaps there could be something saying that if a country takes an opposing capital, their own capital must not be under siege, or else you cannot force more than just a white peace or only a minor victory.

I was happy to get a minor defeat only for what really was a catastrophe! Moscow was still holding (not for long) but they had conquered at least 4 other Russian provinces.

 

[JCQUARTO]

Originally posted by yndenwal:

Originally posted by Dark Knight:
I agree that there should definitely be an option to sell or give territory to an ally, especially if that territory was previously controlled by them.

You can't imagine how many tears, threats, swears there were in the beta testers' forum to implement this. Seems too hard to insert in the code however...

now that is silly. Instead of making it part of a re-programming effort so as to 'sell' a province, just make it a optional condition of a royal marriage. The amount of programming is minimal.

I can see this as a relatively easy part of any 'game editor/hacker' that someone will undoubtably create after the game comes out. You stop the game, bring up the editor, witch ownership of province X from you to whoever, and then resume game.

 

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Originally posted by JCQUARTO:

now that is silly. Instead of making it part of a re-programming effort so as to 'sell' a province, just make it a optional condition of a royal marriage. The amount of programming is minimal.

I can see this as a relatively easy part of any 'game editor/hacker' that someone will undoubtably create after the game comes out. You stop the game, bring up the editor, witch ownership of province X from you to whoever, and then resume game.

As I am no programmer, I just can say what I feel about the difficulty to implement such an option in the peace conditions, in the AI, etc.

Of course, had I wanted to 'cheat', I could have edited the saved game end given Finnmark back to Denmark, and give me a relation bonus with them, and even some gold, and, by the way, hack the Polish files and... Too great a temptation (O Lord forgive me)

 

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As I cannot put the screen capture on a url, I cannot insert it in a post.

However, I have a political map of a really non-standard Europe by 1731 and those of you interested can e-mail me to get it.

 

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I have even created a scrap page to have an url link for this image !

Here it comes:

1st of Jan 1731. This is the political map of Europe.
Poland is restricted to its capital province (the red one).
The big blue dot on Hungary to the Black sea is the French zone, whereas large pieces of France have been eaten by Spain.
The white is Austria (yes they have Danzig), the dark red horizontal country above French Hungary is my faithful Bohemian ally.
Dark Brown is Russia, and I’ve got what was left of the Hansa after a war with Denmark when they had annexed Holstein and the province above.
The light orange country in Germany is Brandenburg.
The Papal States have been doing a great job, unifying nearly all Italy in time (grey). Genoa orange) is a reborner ! Due to revolt, it had lost Corsica (an independent Corsica existed for 50 years before being annexed by Spain) then was annexed by Milan. When Milan got annexed by Papacy, Genoese rebels succeeded in breaking away from Milan, then reconquered Corsica from Spain lately…
Venice is only its city and three Mediterranean isles.
Turkey, light green is slowly being driven out of Europe by France and Austria.

 

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Any question ?
Any other map you want ?

Just ask. I'll try my best.

 

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Originally posted by yndenwal:
Any question ?
Any other map you want ?

Just ask. I'll try my best.

Can I send you some pictures so that you put them on the Club-Internet server and that I can show the limit of the kingdom of Prussia in my AAR?

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Could you post some maps showing the long line of trade posts you have in central Asia? Also maybe a map showing China and Japan, or India. Most of the screenshots have been of europe (which are great, but im getting the idea about how that works) and not the overseas areas. We have seen North America, etc., but I would like to see what states there are in India, SE Asia, etc. Are there independant states like Cholla in Korea, or Siam in SE Asia that you could play by hacking the datafiles?

Thanks

 

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Originally posted by JP:
Can I send you some pictures so that you put them on the Club-Internet server and that I can show the limit of the kingdom of Prussia in my AAR?

Aucun problème. Envoie-moi l'image, je la mets en ligne, te donne l'adresse et tu pourras écrire ton post.

 

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Originally posted by Count_M:
Could you post some maps showing the long line of trade posts you have in central Asia? Also maybe a map showing China and Japan, or India. Most of the screenshots have been of europe (which are great, but im getting the idea about how that works) and not the overseas areas. We have seen North America, etc., but I would like to see what states there are in India, SE Asia, etc. Are there independant states like Cholla in Korea, or Siam in SE Asia that you could play by hacking the datafiles?

Thanks

OK, I'll try, but you'll see a Russian China...
The only Asian countries are:
China, Japan, Moghul, Mysore and one other Indian state. Sorry, no Cholla nor Siam as such.

 

[Dark Knight]

Thanks for posting a map of Europe . It's certainly very interesting to consider. I find France's Eastern Europe possessions rather disturbing, although as long as something like this is extremely rare, I suppose it isn't really a problem.

 

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Please, yndenwal, we need an AAR to fill the gap up since your last one, which ended 1635. Now, you're around 1730, nearly 100 years. We would like to know how the unification of Italy took place. And how you develop your wars and colonies. Do the Knights of St. John still survive?

If I were France, I will try to connect both 'Frances'.

Well, please, send us your interesting report.

/Laruku

 

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Does anyone else find it odd that Scotland manages to remain independent in a lot of these AARs? You would think that England would be interested in acquiring the territory.

 

[Dark Knight]

Yes, but I'm just happy that France doesn't conquer the Midlands in every campaign anymore. I think the English betatesters should have pestered Paradox a lot more about these things. Probably too late now.

 

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Does anyone else find it odd that Scotland manages to remain independent in a lot of these AARs? You would think
that England would be interested in acquiring the territory.


I think its kind of cool that they seem to keep their independence which they did do, at least for a good portion of the game time. Maybe they are inherently hard to keep from revolting or something and Britain doesnt calculate it being worth the hassle.

 

[KRonn]

You have done extremely well for Russia in this AAR.
This is the first AAR I've seen referencing pacific colonies or moves south into Persia. You've established a city on the pacific ocean and provinces south towards Persia. How much time/effort did it take to move the expedition to the pacific (you said 'the long walk')? How well economically are these colonies paying off?
Also, what info do you have of China, Japan or India?
Do you think it would make sense for (your) Russia to move into these areas or to establish alliances?

 

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Originally posted by yndenwal:
Aucun problème. Envoie-moi l'image, je la mets en ligne, te donne l'adresse et tu pourras écrire ton post.

Thanks, mon ami
I'll do it ...



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Originally posted by Pole:
Does anyone else find it odd that Scotland manages to remain independent in a lot of these AARs? You would think that England would be interested in acquiring the territory.

Scotland was independent in 1603 when James VI of Scotland became king also of England (as James I). It was actually joined legally to England by the 1707 Treaty of Union, in the final century of EU. So it shouldn't be too odd that it remained independent in many of the AARs.