I heard there are 9 government TYPES, anyone know what they are?

[King]

Originally posted by BarristerBoy


But how can the communists be divided into 3 factions? There were only 2 communist countries in '36 - USSR and Mondolia (which was completely dominated by the USSR). It's possible that the Chinese Communists will be listed as a separate country, but that still only makes two different forms.

Left Wing radicals, are those on the far left who are willing to use both democratic and revolutionary menas to sieze power. The government of the Spanish Republic was a left wing radical governmnet. Blum's popular front in France included the Refromed Socialists, Left Wing Radicals, Lenninists and Stalinists.

 

[King]

Originally posted by Keynes

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Category confusion.

Depends were you live. In Britian at the time there were to liberal parties, one lead by Llyod George which was centerist and the other lead by John Simon which was part of the national govenrment. Simon's liberals were absorbed by the torries after the war. However in 1936 the correct lable for Baldwins national government was a liberal conservative governmnet.

 

[King]

Originally posted by Keynes

Keplerus and King - both of you are assuming the UK context where conservative government was associated with (classically) liberal economic policies. As per my posting on the OT forum, I am not entirely in agreement with this definition of "liberal" - indeed any definition of liberal which results in its equation with conservatism (its antonym) must be incorrect IMO.

However, beyond that is the problem that the UK is virtually unique in this respect. US conservatives were "liberal" in the sense of antipathy to economic regulation, but opposed free trade. Conservatives in France and Germany were not economic "liberals" at all. So the term is designed to fit one unsual country situation (the UK) at the expense of everyone else.

Ok you've found me out here. I never came up with the definitions it was Greven. Who claims he found them in some political science book as accpeted definitions. What this comes down to is what do we mean by liberal. I think we have to wait on Greven for that one.

 

[King]

Originally posted by Keynes

AHA! Just as I suspected - its primarily determined by the political categories of late 20th century Scandanavia.

Personally - Id vote for just plain "Conservative", "Centrist" and "Democratic Socialist" assuming this is still possible to revise. The other categories are fine.

Oh yeah - hope your having fun with the Beta . . .

Well they are Swedish. At first I would of agreed with your classification but I am now so used to the current set that it would just confuse me if they were changed.

Due to an unfortunate PSU fire I am having no fun at all with the Beta, which why I can drop perals of wisdom in this forum.

 

[King]

Originally posted by pavlovs_dog
as for demos, I think the gov't types should be divided along lines of structure, not ideology (especially as this is very relative and hard to generalize from country to country). I was thinking along the lines of Parliamentary(in some cases constitutional monarchy), U.S.-style federal, and something in between, or perhaps having Constitutinal Monarchy/Parliamentary and Parliamentary.

I don't see this happening for 3 reasons.

1) It would add an additional level of detial, at the moment you master one govenrment you master them all. With your system you get haviung master the US style government you have then to master the Constitutional monarchy etc.. Which will make life more difficult for the players.

2) In war time there was veyr little difference between the different styles of democratic government. All of them did everything they could to win.

3) It is the way Paradox have decided to do it and that is the way it is.