I have a Tributary

[WLFobe]

So I fought a war against a pair of allies and won. Liberated systems from one and turned the other into a Tributary.

I probably should have asked this first - What can I do with a Tributary?

The option is there to turn the tributary into a vassal, but I have a negative score (-41) to actually do this.

Base: -50
Empire Population: -23
Relative Power: +22
Loyal Attitude: +10

Is there anything I can do to change these? My Tributary has 5 worlds to my 10, I completely trashed his fleet so he has much more fleet to build than I do. His relations with me are at about +50, but the loyalty modifier is where it was almost from the start. Trust is growing (+47), but while the Wiki says it is a big modifier, it only seems to show up as that +10.

What can I do?

 

[Radically Right Wing]

So I fought a war against a pair of allies and won. Liberated systems from one and turned the other into a Tributary.

I probably should have asked this first - What can I do with a Tributary?

The option is there to turn the tributary into a vassal, but I have a negative score (-41) to actually do this.

Base: -50
Empire Population: -23
Relative Power: +22
Loyal Attitude: +10

Is there anything I can do to change these? My Tributary has 5 worlds to my 10, I completely trashed his fleet so he has much more fleet to build than I do. His relations with me are at about +50, but the loyalty modifier is where it was almost from the start. Trust is growing (+47), but while the Wiki says it is a big modifier, it only seems to show up as that +10.

What can I do?

I am in a similar situation. I decided I wanted to see what it would be like to play "tall" even though 1.5 is not out yet, so instead of conquering planets in war I limited myself to making vassals and tributaries only. Needless to say, while I am still stronger than my tributaries, they don't really do much and I am not really sure if they will join my offensive wars, so I am trying to make them vassals before declaring a new war but I can't vassalize them for the same reason as you.

 

[TerrBear]

So I fought a war against a pair of allies and won. Liberated systems from one and turned the other into a Tributary.

I probably should have asked this first - What can I do with a Tributary?

The option is there to turn the tributary into a vassal, but I have a negative score (-41) to actually do this.

Base: -50
Empire Population: -23
Relative Power: +22
Loyal Attitude: +10

Is there anything I can do to change these? My Tributary has 5 worlds to my 10, I completely trashed his fleet so he has much more fleet to build than I do. His relations with me are at about +50, but the loyalty modifier is where it was almost from the start. Trust is growing (+47), but while the Wiki says it is a big modifier, it only seems to show up as that +10.

What can I do?

a tributary pays you tribute...

basically they give you a percentage of their minerals and energy credits (25%?), they can still colonise and build frontier outposts, go to war and others can attack them, they are not an ally and can fight for freedom if they or a group of them feel strong enough to break free.
if their ethics is too far from you then you will never be able to convince them to go to a vassal, instead you can always just go to war with them again and no one will protect them and a tributary can't join a federation (good way to deny them finding friends till your happy gobbling them up).

 

[TerrBear]

I am in a similar situation. I decided I wanted to see what it would be like to play "tall" even though 1.5 is not out yet, so instead of conquering planets in war I limited myself to making vassals and tributaries only. Needless to say, while I am still stronger than my tributaries, they don't really do much and I am not really sure if they will join my offensive wars, so I am trying to make them vassals before declaring a new war but I can't vassalize them for the same reason as you.

They join no wars on your side, They purely exist to pay for 'protection' (protection from you, you dont have to protect them from others).

 

[The Founder]

Tributary:
25% of the Energy and Mineral gain go to overlord.
Overlord can not attack Tributiary.
If aquired via war, a Guarantee of independance is singed with the overlord. This one is cost free, but can be canceled without any side effect (aside from the new one costing as usual).

Can be turned into Vassal later. Full trust gain from being in a vassal state (with possible GOD state) applies.

 

[Elothan]

Just dont do my mistake.
I accidentaly made a bunch of fanatical purifiers my tributary, that -1000 is rough.

 

[Chirs]

I use tributaries quite alot. When you make an empire your tributary, it starts out with a guarantee of independence from you, however you can revoke that guarantee, enabling you to declare war again 10 years later and take some more planets or something.

The cool thing about waging war against your tributary is that you can use the full 100 warscore on ceding/liberating/purging planets, because as long as you are victorious, the triubutary will remain a tributary. The only downside to this is that they will get a ticking warscore each month because it automatically turns into a war for independence for them.

So as long as you're fast enough, you can use this to gobble up an empire without having to worry about them joining any pesky federation. Plus they'll pay you while you eat them. What a service.

 

[TerrBear]

Tributary:
25% of the Energy and Mineral gain go to overlord.
Overlord can not attack Tributiary.
If aquired via war, a Guarantee of independance is singed with the overlord. This one is cost free, but can be canceled without any side effect (aside from the new one costing as usual).

Can be turned into Vassal later. Full trust gain from being in a vassal state (with possible GOD state) applies.

overlord definitely can attack a tributary i have done it enough times.

 

[The Founder]

overlord definitely can attack a tributary i have done it enough times.

As "can not attack" is kind of important for this state, I think that is another bug with it.

 

[henzington]

Oversight on paradox's part. Attacking them should break the tributary