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I an going to be that guy. The game showed a lot of promise. Is it in a state that it is worth buying?

Also I would like to note, DONT BITE OFF MORE THAN YOU CAN CHEW (which seems to be the situation)
 

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Right now I'd put the game quality to be on par with a general release. There are a few missing features(Scenarios, some final art, and station retrofitting), the AI isn't up to par yet and multiplayer still has some hitches. On the other hand, Single player is solid for most(currently on my 4th crash free game) 99% of the game concepts are in and performance is good(a few are having issues, but I'm running better turn times than ever)

The all clear mark will be this month according to Devs, So that's when I'd buy if you are concerned. There are a few 50% sales going on right now though, so picking it up for $15 may tip the balance.
 

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Ok, well thanks for the tip, that was the one thing I forgot to ask, I wanted to see if there was a sale. I will check Steam and Gamersgate right now.

EDIT Ok so I looked on both but cant find the sale
 
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Sorry, this is highly misleading.

Keep your money until the all clear is given. It is in *no way* on par with a general release yet.

It's not subjective, it's not in the eye of the beholder. It simply isn't complete yet.
 

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Sorry, this is highly misleading.

Keep your money until the all clear is given. It is in *no way* on par with a general release yet.

It's not subjective, it's not in the eye of the beholder. It simply isn't complete yet.

What part of "'don't buy til all clear, unless you want to take advantage of a sale" is misleading?
 

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The game is in a BETA currently. Some really lost their judgment. It has been vastly improved YES, but its by no means a game which is done. Saying so just leads to anger on the side of the buyers. It is misleading and wrong.

Many players will not enjoy this unfinished product. And this is the reality.
 

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The game is in a BETA currently. Some really lost their judgment. It has been vastly improved YES, but its by no means a game which is done. Saying so just leads to anger on the side of the buyers. It is misleading and wrong.

Many players will not enjoy this unfinished product. And this is the reality.

I know. It's like people can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm a fan of Kerberos through and through, but SotS2 still isn't ready to be bought and played. The fact that some can enjoy it- I've put in about 40 hours myself -doesn't mean it's right to recommend it.

In a few more months the story will definitely be different. I anticipate that the game will be every bit as wonderful as SotS once it has an expansion or two.
 

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This game is still very much Alpha release to me.

The tactical combat is coming along really well and shows a lot of promise, but if this was the game I got on release, even now, I'd be raging. The UI needs a lot of work, there's a hell of a lot of optimizing that needs to be done, lots of bugs, and other annoyances that really stifle the fun of this game.

However, it is worth getting in a month or two. The combat engine is really what shines in this game. Id be happy with SOTS 1 and the new combat engine, truth be told.
 

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Considering I am lacking money at the moment and I dont start work until next week, I am going to pass until the next sale. But I agree, if the game is still unpolished, I would still take advantage of the next sale, im sure the Steam Summer Sale will have it.
 

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me said:
Right now I'd put the game quality to be on par with a general release. There are a few missing features(Scenarios, some final art, and station retrofitting), the AI isn't up to par yet and multiplayer still has some hitches. On the other hand, Single player is solid for most(currently on my 4th crash free game) 99% of the game concepts are in and performance is good(a few are having issues, but I'm running better turn times than ever)

Words, They do have meanings.
You don't get to bash on the first thing I said while ignoring everything after it. That's not how English works. The game can be played from start til finish, no critical features are missing. It's still not done yet, but I was pretty explicit about that. It IS around the general quality I expect from a non AAA studio.
 

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Honestly, thats all that I needed to know if I can play the game from Start to Finish with acceptable AI but again, I want to wait for my First Pay Check, or my giant check that the government is supose to give me and also the next deal on the game. But I will be giving this bad boy a try!
 

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The game was functional when I was playing after this last patch but the performance was abysmal. The sluggish AI and long screen time transitions, and exceptionally long turn times are back. DId it work? Yes. Could I take multiple minutes that passed after I hit the turn button before a turn would process? Nope. I made it to about turn 44 and gave up waiting for performance enhancements.
 

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In my opinion the game are essentially still kind of BETA, the developer has not even given the all clear sign yet either. You can, more or less, play the game from start to finish. But the AI is not very challenging so the game is rather one sided. Turn time and screen transition times is frustrating to say the least.

You can play a small map with maybe three or four opponents and make it through without going insane about all the waiting.

All this said... the game will be great once AI and GUI is polished and tuned. The game mechanics is otherwise fantastic in my opinion.