I've felt this way for a while and I think it's essentially a given that the game will forever have 'reactionary' paths open to countries. So here goes:
When I mean reactionary, I do not mean fascist/nazi (from now on, I will consider Fascism to an umbrella term, like in the game). To me, those ideologies are a combination of progressivism and reactionaryism. More importantly, fascism, like communism and sort of democracy, is young and full of energy. None of those ideologies will be extinguished permanently in the 20th century. Reactionaryism, that is, the ideology of old-school absolutism is on its last legs by 1936. The Kaiser has been dethroned, the King of the UK is just a figurehead, the Tsar is gone, the Emperor of China is gone, the other Kaiser is gone, the king of Spain is gone. There are "kingdoms" in the Balkans, but the idea of "nothing by the people, everything for the people" is years away from being wiped out completely, led alone the idea of a country being one man's personal property. Yet time and again, the devs have created paths for most countries to turn back the clock to the 19th century and re-crown an absolute monarch. It often isn't especially realistic, but considering hoi4 is a sandbox game that's a pretty minor qualm.
My main issue is that it is out of place in a game post-ww1. The world has moved on and there are really cool ideologies to fill the gap. This is the ONLY game we get to experience Fascism in, apart from the last fifth of vicky 2. And now it has to share the spotlight with an ideology that you most of EU4 trying to reach. While Democracy and Communism have bigger impacts in Vicky, this era is their golden age - the era of trying to create either a world revolution or a free planet. These ideologies are all more modern, more relatable, and I think more advanced considering they're younger. And yet France just HAS to have the option of going bonarpartist. God forbid they live in THIS CENTURY!
Don't get me wrong though, I enjoy absolutism and the politics of the 18th and 19th century. My username and pic were not mistakes. It's just that they are out of place in a ww2 game, just as making conversion early to Christianity something easily done would be impropriate in Imperator.
Clearly though, few players share my thoughts on this matter. Every DD which allows yet another country to go back in time is applauded, and the immense popularity of Kaiserreich and the Great War mod only further proves my point. I expect many to disagree with the sentiment expressed here.
So tell me, old dogs, reactionaries, those from a more civilized age, with your pickhaulbes and finely combed facial hair, as you long for the way things were and for the rabble to learn their place, why? Why are you so enamored with turning hoi4 into militarized Vicky 3?
When I mean reactionary, I do not mean fascist/nazi (from now on, I will consider Fascism to an umbrella term, like in the game). To me, those ideologies are a combination of progressivism and reactionaryism. More importantly, fascism, like communism and sort of democracy, is young and full of energy. None of those ideologies will be extinguished permanently in the 20th century. Reactionaryism, that is, the ideology of old-school absolutism is on its last legs by 1936. The Kaiser has been dethroned, the King of the UK is just a figurehead, the Tsar is gone, the Emperor of China is gone, the other Kaiser is gone, the king of Spain is gone. There are "kingdoms" in the Balkans, but the idea of "nothing by the people, everything for the people" is years away from being wiped out completely, led alone the idea of a country being one man's personal property. Yet time and again, the devs have created paths for most countries to turn back the clock to the 19th century and re-crown an absolute monarch. It often isn't especially realistic, but considering hoi4 is a sandbox game that's a pretty minor qualm.
My main issue is that it is out of place in a game post-ww1. The world has moved on and there are really cool ideologies to fill the gap. This is the ONLY game we get to experience Fascism in, apart from the last fifth of vicky 2. And now it has to share the spotlight with an ideology that you most of EU4 trying to reach. While Democracy and Communism have bigger impacts in Vicky, this era is their golden age - the era of trying to create either a world revolution or a free planet. These ideologies are all more modern, more relatable, and I think more advanced considering they're younger. And yet France just HAS to have the option of going bonarpartist. God forbid they live in THIS CENTURY!
Don't get me wrong though, I enjoy absolutism and the politics of the 18th and 19th century. My username and pic were not mistakes. It's just that they are out of place in a ww2 game, just as making conversion early to Christianity something easily done would be impropriate in Imperator.
Clearly though, few players share my thoughts on this matter. Every DD which allows yet another country to go back in time is applauded, and the immense popularity of Kaiserreich and the Great War mod only further proves my point. I expect many to disagree with the sentiment expressed here.
So tell me, old dogs, reactionaries, those from a more civilized age, with your pickhaulbes and finely combed facial hair, as you long for the way things were and for the rabble to learn their place, why? Why are you so enamored with turning hoi4 into militarized Vicky 3?
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