I HATE EU4 !
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i'am a huge TW fan, but Paradox games play in a different league. You got get into the game. everythin is logical, you just cant see it.
btw: welcome to really strategy. You just left casual
Edit: oh ya, and your completly oke taht you can recruit 3 Legions of Pretorianguards in numidia a year after your conquered it in Rome 2 ? A: there is not 15'000 man in Numidia to recruit and how realistic is it two train pretorians a year after conquer?
IF you cant handle EU IV but still want some more challenge than Arcade Rome II, try Rome II Divide et Impera mod on twcenter.net
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Total war games entire concept is about conquering things and fighting wars, its in the name. If you want mindless slaughter and conquering then they work great. If you want any of; Diplomacy, Historical accuracy, economics, Strategy, realism, decent internal mechanics, Peace, depth or just something other than mindless conquering then EU4 is a much better game (though not perfect).
Attempting to play like Total war, declaring war on everyone and assuming your ability to outwit the AI will win you every battle, then you are playing wrong. If you cant sit still for 20 years at peace, you are playing the wrong game. This is a grand strategy game, you have to use diplomacy and some sort of strategy.
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Lol! Well i heard its way too easy to win in total war games, so whats the point of playing? Might as well just code yourself game with button "win" and press it. In eu4 you cant just attack anybody and expect to win..
Mr OP, can you tell us how Total War is "real strategy"? Impart on us this wisdom, oh wise and impatient one!
EU4 is for adults who can think, Total War is for kids who like clicking ''I win'' buttons.
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Bonjour Monsieur, Le Troll. Good job in simulating the whining of little preschool children when they don't get what they want.
Well well as a lover of TW-Games and Paradox games your a bit unfair.. There are plenty of good mods out there wich make it a big challenge (DeI)
In terms of Battle tactics and units Paradox Games dont stand a change aganst TW games. Wich is fine
since its not the focus.
The best game i can imagine woud be TW-RT Battle combined with a Paradox campaign game.
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I loved TW:Medieval 1 when i first played it, but got bored fast from the battles.
So i played the map only.
About 12 years later, i heard of/discovered EU4.
Man, what a joy
So i played the map only.
About 12 years later, i heard of/discovered EU4.
Man, what a joy
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BUT without kill cam. The battles need to play out like in Rome 1 and before, when the series was still fun, or this would be a disaster like Rome 2.
have you tried Rome 2 with DeI? As it current state, Rome 2 is the best TW there is.
(I played all of em, since shogun I)
Nah, no mods. I played them since Medieval 1 and to be honest that one remains my favourite. That and Rome 1. Empire was so-so but I didn't like Shogun 2 much (realm divided really pissed me off). I only really tried it when it had a free weekend, after Empire and Shogun 2 I didn't want to sink this much money blindly.
Does the mod get rid of the "feature" that makes the battles a series of 1on1 duels with units shuffling around to try to align for a kill move? Does it add mass to unit models? Because if the battles aren't made like in the past, there's not much left in the game that's worth playing, more than PDX games anyway...
And it better be seriously worth the absurd price of Rome 2.
You expect to master EU4 after 20 hours? Many people who have 300 hours are still "beginners" in the game.
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In each campaign I play there is always a moment when I hate this game.
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- meh, he could get a support if his critique was viable. But it was not and his comparison to TW, a game were AI since the beginning of times could use only one tactic - zerg rush with hordes of elites because AI in TW gets tonnes of economic bonuses so it can supports as much bigger armies than player even if it only controls one province, is just laughable.
that's why games have become a lot easier over the years. More and more people just don't want to put in the time to learn the mechanics and get better. They want to steamroll right from the start. It's a shame really. That's why I feel that EU4 is so good. You have to play multiple campaigns in order to understand all the features and make the most out of them. If the OP would spend a few dozen hours more in EU4 I'm sure he would think differently and get much more enjoyment out of it.
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it changes tons of stuff in CAI, BAI as well as campaign and Battles. i woud take ages to write it down..
here is a link: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2024-Divide-et-Impera-(DeI)
i can only recommend it with all of my heart
Attila actually has quite some challenge in it, however it is quite obvious that it is a testing ground for the upcoming Warhammer title. Let's hope the latter will pan out something to chew on.
- DEI? Is that a mod that completely rips of EB1-2 without acknowledging it?
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