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Oh dear,
Yes I was a tad to serious in my reply, I did mean to be light-hearted-ish!
Tallyrand,
what is sisu?
Hartmann- LOL!, still, I guess all the patching might be finished by the time I get to buy a copy! (I have been waiting 13 months for it already).
Toby
Yes I was a tad to serious in my reply, I did mean to be light-hearted-ish!
Tallyrand,
what is sisu?
Hartmann- LOL!, still, I guess all the patching might be finished by the time I get to buy a copy! (I have been waiting 13 months for it already).
Toby
Don't US planes keep crashing every week? Apache Helicopter,Harrier,F-16 what's left to fly?
yes of course. US Air Force planes do occassionally crash. That's because we actually fly our planes.
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What good does it do to fly planes that keep crashing?Nah,answer me this what does it say about a country that produces plane that crashes..anyone remember the Black bird?How long did that American Marvel last?
Originally posted by KrsLascar:
What good does it do to fly planes that keep crashing?Nah,answer me this what does it say about a country that produces plane that crashes..anyone remember the Black bird?How long did that American Marvel last?
There was actually something about this in the paper not too long ago and the USAAF has the lowest crash rate per missions flown in the world behind theIsrealis. AS someone else said, the Americans fly so many missions that in the great law of averages, something will crash. (Note: these numbers don't inlcude helicopter crashes since those are not USAAF).
'Can't beat the US Airforce!'- what a load of rubbish! In WW2 US+UK destroyed 10,000 German aircraft, the Soviets destroyed more than 34,000! It should read 'Can't beat the Soviet Air Force!'
As for the best degrees, I have to say that having dabbled in everything from Business to Political Theory, I would say that you can't really compare an Arts degree with a Science or Engineering degree! They require totally different approaches and differing commitment!
After all, you will only find a degree easy if you are good at it! Some will find Arts difficult, others a BA of Science!
Personally I like the humanities the best, so that's why I took on a BA of Arts, so that I could do philosophy,history, literature and media studies! Everything interests me! I'm doing my honours now. Thank God EU isn't out here in Oz yet!
As for the best degrees, I have to say that having dabbled in everything from Business to Political Theory, I would say that you can't really compare an Arts degree with a Science or Engineering degree! They require totally different approaches and differing commitment!
After all, you will only find a degree easy if you are good at it! Some will find Arts difficult, others a BA of Science!
Personally I like the humanities the best, so that's why I took on a BA of Arts, so that I could do philosophy,history, literature and media studies! Everything interests me! I'm doing my honours now. Thank God EU isn't out here in Oz yet!
Depends, if I'm in the war (as ina guy being shot at) I want American officers since their first thought is, 'If we shell it and bomb it enough maybe it will go away'. As a grunt I like that kind of overkill.
They had that attitude in WWII and god knows it has only grown since then.
Here's what I would hate :
British :Cooks/Dentists
German :Wives
Americanoliticians/Vote counters
French : Soldiers/Officers
Swiss : Videogame Developers
British :Cooks/Dentists
German :Wives
American
oliticians/Vote countersFrench : Soldiers/Officers
Swiss : Videogame Developers
You don't need to yell. The US had the best fighter of the war. Well, many experts consider it to be the best.
You have to remember much of the German airforce was on the eastern front. And during the cold winter many of their planes didn't fly so when the soviets went on the offensive the Germans lost a ton of planes on the gorund.
In most German attacks the lost planes because of anti-air fire. Kushneyas? Something like that. Not russian fighter engagements.
As far as the rest of the German planes. They were destroyed on the Ground!!!!! They had no fuel. I would hardly call that a feat. The fact is that the German airforce lost most of it's air to air, or fighter causulties in actual combat from 39-41. After that the majority of German fighter, bomber casualties were destroyed sitting on the ground. Take the Me262 series. 1400 were produced, 1100 were taken out sitting on the ground and about 250 were captured. I would hardly say it was beaten by any airforce.
The US airforce is currently pretty good.
Russians have some nice designs su-27,37. Basically very manueverable fighters. But they don't have the payload that US fighters carry in missle complements. Plus the fact that they are hardly being produced at all.
Funny, Russias neighbors have T-95's yet the Russians haven't produced them for their own army. They make them and sell them to Taiwan, China, NorthKorea, SouthKorea.
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'We must do more than defeat their armies, we must destroy them.' General Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson
I beg to differ ,the germans had the only jet fighter of WWII the messershmit 269 (or whatever).And that baby could out do any spitfire or other Allied fighter British or American.Problem was that Jerry could only produce a token amount,which is really how he lost,Americans outproduced the German fighter in the war and thats how they won Air Controle.
Even if the Me-262 would have gone into wide scale production, it wouldnt of mattered. First, the luftwaffe was running out of skilled pilots to fly planes. Second, the US P-51 had a ton of P-51s,the best prop-driven planes in the war. third, although the jets were very fast, their turning radius was larger because of their velocity, so against the much slower P-51s, they werent the all powerful superweapons that everyone talks about. Lastly, and most importantly, the war ended the moment Hitler declared war on Russia. After that point, the only question was when the war would end. Russia had too much manpower and the russian winter working for them.
A fighting spirit that is very hard to describe among civilised people
Think about the morale of any elite formation of your choice and then apply it to a whole nation...
Hm, which fighter are you thinking about now?Are the experts by any chance from the US?
Just had to set the record straight.If the US was bombed to hell the way Germany was in 1943-45 ,the war would have gone a different way.And in no way were US fighters 'the best in the world' at that time.
Hmm nowadys yes. EU times I would prefer:
Finnish Soliders
and Swedish Officers
By the way I hope you mean Yanks for the whole logistic? they very good at that and home front production.
Of the prop planes I'd take the P-51e over anything flying at that time. Plus, given the role it player- deep escort- it was the best plane, period- the Me262 lacked the range to perform escort duties.
The F6F was the best carrier based fighter while either the F4U (whihc could be carrier based but largly flew for Marine units) or F47 were the best dual use attack/fighter planes. The B29 was the best strategic bomber (the Norden sight alone makes ANY US strategic bomber the best of the its age). The Helldiver was the best dive bomber and the TBF the best torpedo plane. The TBY was a dandy long-range scout plane. The Americans did not have the best plane the Il2 Stormovic (?) ground attack aircraft the Soviets used would rate better.
Give the Americans credit. They built some great aircraft which they needed to offset their horrible inability to build a tank that could standup to the German tanks.
Yeah But britian never built the plane. And it wasn't near the quality of the Me262 engine.
I don't think Britian ever built a prototype plane, they did have an engine.
Only about 1400 me262 were built. And the superiority came from the fact that being faster they could run away if needed or surprise other planes before they had time to react.
It worked particularly well against bomber formations inflicting heavy causulties. Production was severely delayed because hilter insisted on having a fighter/bomber
The engine was actually developed way before(2 or so years) Britian even considered the idea. It was invented at about the sametime as the V1.
Didn't matter at this time. The War was coming to a close.
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'We must do more than defeat their armies, we must destroy them.' General Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson