I FOUND A NEW BUG

[chihaya]

I start this game with no scrip.I start at 1644 november 11th,and play as Ming.I want to "fanqingfuming" just for fun.I defeat Qing,and Korchin become the Emperor.After that,I declare war to Korchin,and make it become a vassal.But the vassal is still the emperor of China,and I could be a Tributary of it.
I think it is a bug to play as it.How could a vassal become an emperor,how could a coutry become a tributary of its vassal.

 

[HaruhiZNuo]

what is "fanqingfuming"

 

[chihaya]

what is "fanqingfuming"

Defeat Qing and rebulit Ming.It is a phrase in China.

 

[holyvigil]

If it's a bug it should be in the bug forums.

 

[Siu-King**]

I start this game with no scrip.I start at 1644 november 11th,and play as Ming.I want to "fanqingfuming" just for fun.I defeat Qing,and Korchin become the Emperor.After that,I declare war to Korchin,and make it become a vassal.But the vassal is still the emperor of China,and I could be a Tributary of it.
I think it is a bug to play as it.How could a vassal become an emperor,how could a coutry become a tributary of its vassal.

太容易了吧.

anyway, nobody should be emperor of China until YOU (ming) lose it, and you can't lose it unless someone declare "Claim Mandate" on you.

 

[chihaya]

太容易了吧.

anyway, nobody should be emperor of China until YOU (ming) lose it, and you can't lose it unless someone declare "Claim Mandate" on you.

IF you start at 1644 11 11.The emperor is Qing.So I don't lose it.I thinkThe vassal shouldn't beThe emperor.

 

[Siu-King**]

IF you start at 1644 11 11.The emperor is Qing.So I don't lose it.I thinkThe vassal shouldn't beThe emperor.

oh it's 1644.

Other bookmarks except 1444 are all very, VERY buggy.

For example, Spain with his colonies have 200% Overextension when you start

 

[chihaya]

oh it's 1644.

Other bookmarks except 1444 are all very, VERY buggy.

For example, Spain with his colonies have 200% Overextension when you start

It's my first time play other bookmarks.So I didn't Know before.LOL

 

[GizahNL]

It's my first time play other bookmarks.So I didn't Know before.LOL

afaik the only other bookmark besides 1444 that is considered 'somewhat' playable is the American revolution bookmark. Just don't quote me on that if it ends up being untrue

 

[SolSys]

It's my first time play other bookmarks.So I didn't Know before.LOL

The overwhelming majority of users [+95%] use the most earlier start date possible.
Since the "play at any date" feature requires a lot of resources for very little effort it was decided to divert focus elsewhere.

Even on HoI4 - with only 2 available dates - the 2nd date turned not to be worth the effort [less than 10% of use].
It has come to the point that they decided to remove the feature on any future series iteration.

 

[Badesumofu]

Anything other than the default start date should be assumed to be broken by default.

They should really disable everything except 11 November 1444 and put in an option to re-enable them in a menu somewhere with a warning that it doesn't really work but you can try it at your own risk.

 

[Mork]

As SolSys inferred, PDox stopped supporting the other start dates some time ago.
So it might be a bug, but it's not going to be fixed, at least not unless it affects something that happens in a Grand Campaign start-

 

[chihaya]

As SolSys inferred, PDox stopped supporting the other start dates some time ago.
So it might be a bug, but it's not going to be fixed, at least not unless it affects something that happens in a Grand Campaign start-

If I start at 1444 and use code to exam it.AndThe bug is still exist.will it be a true bug?

 

[Gratak]

If I start at 1444 and use code to exam it.AndThe bug is still exist.will it be a true bug?

It's not a bug. You just create it this way... Instead of making them your vassal just claim the mandate from them... The game is just giving you extra choice. In theory a very weak emperor could become a vassal himself... Becoming a tributary of your own vassal would be a bug, yeah, but is it really possible? I think some "is not possible" messages only appear if the AI would actually accept an offer.

 

[SolSys]

If I start at 1444 and use code to exam it.AndThe bug is still exist.will it be a true bug?

It is a bug [by definition] irregardless of the date.
But yeah, if it could be reproduced during a normal campaign** it is more likely to get fixed sooner.

Edit: BTW, register your account [link below] to access the bug-report sub-forum.

**which, from your description, may be possible.

 

[YuriiH]

Well, you can play bug-free later dates, but in much earlier patches (somewhere around 1.5).