I don't understand the attitude of this forum

[Wizzington]

Not really. I've called it mana since the first time I saw it in EU4 1.0. Simply because it feels and functions like mana in any game with magic.

The fact that you've been telling the same stale joke for almost two years is not actually to your credit.

 

[Wizzington]

wel where to start, ok i was very exited to read all the dev diares and they all sounded super cool to me. so yes on day 1 i was very exited bought the new dlc instandly and started my campaign with france iirc, note that im not close to an expert player, i considder myself informed but avarage player. my ultimate goal was to someday conquer the world with a huge nation, in the proces collect as many archievements as possible to learn different aspects of the game. so to be clear, for me the game was already very challenging even though i played 1200 hours of it. to sum up my experiences with common sence i tried france, castille, brandenburg, ottoman, england, ming, japan, vagyagayagaygara and 1 or 2 more countrys i like. none of them got past 1550 most i quited around 1500.

so its not that i didnt like the ideas of common sence, but ingame they yust didnt work out as i thought they would. yes my progress was so much slower then all my previous games in previous patches, and after reading up on it it got confirmed that the gamedesign was ment to be much more difficult. as you can see that in this case for me the ultimate goal was completely taken away. not with 3000 hours am i gona archieve that.

the extras common sence brought didnt work out either, development totaly pointless when u wanna expand as fast as possible, forts, wel u know rebbel scum and i really still dont get there influence area's, all my lovely unique buildings are gone. new buildings look pointless: 1 you have lots of money to create more money¿, 2 running out of building slots way too fast.

oh yeah 1 thing that reminded me of my ottoman game, was pretty cool at first: i released persia as a opm, and hey i got half of timmys territory to join persia when they rebelled, cool time to intregrate right? wrong i dont remember the exact time and cost, but heck u can see what i mean, if u compare that cost to pre cs.

what botheres me about paradox so much, wel i saw a million complaints all over the place, and yes i mostly joined the conversation because i was so stunned about this different game called eu4, but not a single response from paradox, wel i couldn keep up with all the posts so some might have gotten by me, then this community who saiz i have to go back to previous pathc and stop bitching, for the last time, NO i loved how eu4 developed until cs, so i wanted to be upto date and enjoy new patches as they came along. wel and then you have those who say, hey what do you want free coring cost to make it fun? heck where where those people complaining pre cs about coring cost being to cheap? u cant dictate how difficult the game is for ME. also i hate the fact that these HUGE changes never where discussed in the devdiares. and where simply forced down my u know what.

ok to sum up: best game ever for me, until cs. i already proposed different difficulty settings for ironman, but apperently im dumb as a monkey by saying that, so yeah end game i suppose

bil

Have you considered that the reason your progress was much slower was because you haven't gotten used to the new systems? Because yes, conquest is slowed down, but it isn't radically so. People have already done WCs with 1.12 and it just takes one glance at a 1600-ish screenshot of Teutonic Order owning half of Europe to realize that the potential is still very much there.

 

[Wizzington]

I'm wondering. Why is it for sale on the Paradox Store and not on Steam?

Not my department, ask someone in sales.

 

[Wizzington]

Wiz, it almost sounds like you're honestly offended by the "mana" nickname for Monarch Points. Are you? Because you need not to This is a damn good game, it got a whole load better in 1.12, and I'm really anxious to get my hands on 1.13. But...well, I'm still thinking of those three integer-type variables as "mana". Sorry, the name just...stucks in the head, being short and simple. I think you don't need to take a Diplomatic Insult CB against people using it.

I'm not offended by tired memes, they're just tired memes.

 

[Wizzington]

Mana really is just a very worn out meme. If someone referenced Ulm in every other post I'd be thoroughly sick of that meme as well. I generally just give posts talking about mana a pass, because tired memes and worthwhile reading are rarely found in the same place.

 

[Wizzington]

No it's not. Monarch points dont need to go. It's just that something needs to be done with them besides the random changes to coring costs.

Policies were almost a step in the right direction but they made it so policies never upset the status quo.

Monarch points are never going anywhere for EU4.

 

[Wizzington]

It's not a meme. It's a word that applies in this context by definition.
Monarch Points are mana by any reasonable definition of the word.

If by 'reasonable definition' you mean 'dumb meme' then you are indeed, completely correct. By the standards you use, you can call pretty much anything 'mana', which showed itself precisely to be true when people started calling political power for HOI4 mana as well.

 

[Wizzington]

I actually think this thread has run its course, so I'm going to go ahead and lock it.