I don't understand that succession.

[Rider_of_Doom]

I haven't played for a while, so I don't know, if they changed the rules for it (my last knowledge is development > everything else):

I'm playing as Denmark and I have RMs with France and Castile. France has RMs with me and Castile. Castile with me and France (something, something alliance of doom).
The queen of France is 56 and a de Valois and he has no heir. Castile is in a regency council with a male Trastamara. I have a queen from house Wittelsbach.
If the queen of France dies, a Trastamara will succeeds to the throne, although I have more prestige, more development, more legitimacy... to summarize it: I'm superior to Castile, still, my dynasty will not get the throne.

Never encountered a situation like this. Have female rulers restrictions or is it a problem, that I'm Protestant or is there something else?

 

[Orkonkel]

Yes.

 

[Rikissa]

I might be 100% wrong, but isn't it development adjusted by autonomy? So if you have a province with 4 dev and 75% autonomy, it counts as 1. Not sure if I'm misremembering things. Best to refer to the guide.

 

[Tarkilth]

First off, have you had a look at Atwix's post?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ages-personal-unions-and-claim-throne.788829/

It's very thorough and nice.

In any case, afaik

"a) A noble from some other house will succeed to the throne:

That other house is has more development than your country. You need to become stronger than them to install a noble from your dynasty."

still counts.

He also mentions:

"OPTION A : You do not share a dynasty. They have no heir.

AIM is to put your dynasty on foreign monarchy throne to open up future possibilities, or to get succession wars over countries. Aim of YOUR nation is to gain the highest development possible; it gives your nation lot more chance to get a dynasty spread in other (greater power) nations.

Basic rule of thumb (very important!):If you become highest total EFFECTIVE development nation of all RM partners of a nation, you will deliver a noble of your dynasty to become ruler of that nation, if their old ruler dies heirless.

The total THEORETICAL development of your country is shown in the country tab of the ledger. The total EFFECTIVE development deducts the percentage of local autonomy OFF the total development value of your provinces, and then adds it all up.

I bet you say "eeeeehhh.... what?" now....

I'll elaborate.

The development of a province is the sum of its base tax, base production and base manpower. A country's total THEORETICAL development is the sum of all of its provinces' development values. You can see this value in the Country tab of the ledger.

So, local autonomy deducts a fair part of this number, giving the real TOTAL EFFECTIVE DEVELOPMENT. This total effective development is what determines who supplies the new king for an heirless throne, out of all RM partners.

BUT since the autonomy of provinces is taken into account, the number is just a guideline. Anyhow, the idea is to get more development then other RM Partners of your target heirless nation. If you see another RM partner of them is delivering new noble to their heirless RM partner... Then BLOB more, or develop yourself, or lower autonomy in high development provinces that have high autonomy (in case of an almost tie in development between nations, might not be good idea overall). This will make YOUR nation the one that delivers new noble kings of your dynasty in foreign monarchies you married into.

After this rule of thumb, I'll just refer to total development as the rule, to keep it easy!"

TL;DR: It should be effective development that decides it. Maybe your provinces have a lot of local autonomy whereas Castille does not? Otherwise I only have crazy guesses and ideas that have no evidence so. In any case, best of luck with your Game of Thrones!

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

*Snip*

Thanks, the autonomy was the problem. Wasn't aware, that this could be also considered by the game, since I've never encountered that situation. Switched a few states and everything is fine now.

 

[Badesumofu]

It's a shame that the UI doesn't tell you your autonomy modified development. It's quite an important statistic for a number of things.

And yes, that's the answer here. Prestige is no longer relevant (although you need higher prestige than target in order to use Claim Throne diplomatic action). Highest AMD RM partner gets the dynasty swap.

 

[Sfan]

You get the number from rooting out corruption. That's annoying that it's hidden, but as most hidden numbers it's accessible with a small calculation. Rooting out corruption costs 0,05 ducat per month per effective dev for maximum effect (0,6 per year per effective dev to root it out by 1). Which, incidentally, is how hordes make money out of debasing.

 

[atwix]

the number is also shown in institution window. a tooltipsomewhere there will say your effective development after autonomy.

 

[Badesumofu]

You get the number from rooting out corruption. That's annoying that it's hidden, but as most hidden numbers it's accessible with a small calculation. Rooting out corruption costs 0,05 ducat per month per effective dev for maximum effect (0,6 per year per effective dev to root it out by 1). Which, incidentally, is how hordes make money out of debasing.

Thanks, having those numbers is very helpful. Trying to learn horde play was one of the reasons I wanted to be able to know so I could try to calculate A) when debase would be better than a loan, and B) when debase would actually become profitable.

 

[Tarkilth]

Awesome, glad it worked out. Good luck on your future world domination!