I didn't lift a finger and France just crumbled!

[Junuxx]

Well I've never seen anything like this happen, so I just wanted to share this with you BBB haters and lovers. Defeating France is one thing, but seeing them just crumbling to pieces without any war at all is something else. In my current game they just fell apart by themselves. I (as Meissen) wasn't involved at all, nor was England or Castille.

I didn't meddle in this at all. No wars, no spies, I only helped the revolters out a bit by fighting their rebels.

They got a 'Civil War' event... Havent seen that much either. What does it do? On top of that they got excommunicated all the time and an enormous amount of religious rebels. Apparently that's too much even for France's monstrous manpower.

See what happened.

I think it's awesome
Just look at that mega Liege!

 

[Romtos]

You got to be one lucky bastard.

It happens though, albeit rarely.
Even Burgundy kicking French ass early game.

Never in my game though, never more than stagnation.

 

[EUROO7]

I've never seen a civil war before!

 

[Nodscouterr]

That is so beautiful I'm almost crying!

 

[Yuri_Kenobi]

Wow, now there's one event I'd like to see more of! :rofl:

 

[Romtos]

I've never seen a civil war before!

...Now you mention it.

 

[Junuxx]

You got to be one lucky bastard.

It's sort of a mixed blessing. I think I could have handled France eventually, and that would have been a challenge. But on the other hand I'm really enjoying this variety of nations and colours in the place where France would usually be

It happens though, albeit rarely.
Even Burgundy kicking French ass early game.

Never in my game though, never more than stagnation.

I've seen Burgundy come out on top a few times. If only they'd realize that they are no match for Bohemia-as-HRE in 1399, they'd be succesful more often.

 

[marty99]

Whats the trigger for civil war?
I've never heard of it either

 

[Romtos]

It's sort of a mixed blessing. I think I could have handled France eventually, and that would have been a challenge. But on the other hand I'm really enjoying this variety of nations and colours in the place where France would usually be

The BBB will always be waiting for you. I agree you better enjoy the unique outcome you got now.

 

[Nodscouterr]

# Civil war
country_event = {

	id = 3091
	
	major = yes
	trigger = {
		NOT = { has_country_flag = civil_war } 
		NOT = { has_country_flag = total_war_series } 
		num_of_cities = 2
		war = no
		badboy = 0.30
		NOT = { ADM = 7 }
		NOT = { aristocracy_plutocracy = -2 }
		NOT = { stability = 0 }
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 720

		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			revolt_percentage = 0.1
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			NOT = { stability = -1 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			NOT = { stability = -2 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			badboy = 0.45
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			prestige = 0.2
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			prestige = 0.3 
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			advisor = statesman
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			statesman = 5
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			statesman = 6
		}
	}
	
	title = "EVTNAME3091"
	desc = "EVTDESC3091"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA3091"			# Support the opposition
		ai_chance = { factor = 40 }
		set_country_flag = civil_war
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			change_controller = REB
		}
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			revolutionary_rebels = 1
		}
		add_country_modifier = {
			name = "oppose_monarch"
			duration = 300
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB3091"			# Support the Monarch
		ai_chance = { factor = 60 }
		set_country_flag = civil_war
		treasury = -70
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			revolutionary_rebels = 1
		}
		add_country_modifier = {
			name = "support_monarch"
			duration = 300
		}
	}
}


# A cry for help
country_event = {

	id = 3092
	
	trigger = {
		has_country_flag = civil_war
		NOT = { has_country_flag = allies }
		num_of_revolts = 0.15
		num_of_allies = 2
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 24

		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_allies = 3
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_allies = 4
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_revolts = 0.2
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_revolts = 0.3
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			stability = 0
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			advisor = statesman
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			statesman = 6
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			stability = 1
		}
	}
	
	title = "EVTNAME3092"
	desc = "EVTDESC3092"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA3092"			# Request aid from your allies
		ai_chance = { factor = 40 }
		set_country_flag = allies
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			change_controller = REB
		}
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			revolutionary_rebels = 1
		}
		prestige = -0.05
		diplomats = -1
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB3092"			# Rely on your own strength
		ai_chance = { factor = 60 }
		set_country_flag = allies
                prestige = 0.05
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			revolutionary_rebels = 1
		}	
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			revolutionary_rebels = 1
		}
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			change_controller = REB
		}
	}
}


# Unscrupulous in-laws
country_event = {

	id = 3093
	
	trigger = {
		has_country_flag = civil_war
		NOT = { has_country_flag = unscrupulous_inlaws }
		num_of_royal_marriages = 2
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 36

		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_royal_marriages = 3
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_revolts = 0.2
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			num_of_revolts = 0.3
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			stability = 0
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			advisor = diplomat
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			diplomat = 6
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			DIP = 7
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			DIP = 8
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			stability = 1
		}
	}
	
	title = "EVTNAME3093"
	desc = "EVTDESC3093"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA3093"			# Take appropriate measures
		ai_chance = { factor = 40 }
		set_country_flag = unscrupulous_inlaws
		stability = -1
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			change_controller = REB
		}
		random_owned = {
			limit = { is_core = THIS }
			revolutionary_rebels = 1
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB3093"			# Ignore their pathetic attempts
		ai_chance = { factor = 60 }
		set_country_flag = unscrupulous_inlaws
		stability = -1
		prestige = -0.05
		centralization_decentralization = 1
	}
}


# Rebel forces take over
province_event = {

	id = 3094
	
	trigger = {
		owner = {
			has_country_flag = civil_war
			war = no
			NOT = { has_country_flag = rebel_control }
			NOT = { MIL = 6 }
		}
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 24

		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { advisor = statesman } }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { advisor = statesman }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { ADM = 5 } }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { ADM = 7 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { stability = 0 } }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { stability = 2 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			has_building = constable
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { is_monarch_leader = yes }
		}
	}
	
	title = "EVTNAME3094"
	desc = "EVTDESC3094"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA3094"			# We must regroup before they attack again
		owner = {
			set_country_flag = rebel_control
			treasury = -60
			add_country_modifier = {
				name = "battle_preparations"
				duration = 300
			}
			random_owned = {
				limit = { is_core = THIS }
				revolutionary_rebels = 1
			}		
		}
		change_controller = REB
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB3094"			# We'll have to accept defeat, for now
		owner = {
			set_country_flag = rebel_control
			prestige = -0.05
			add_country_modifier = {
				name = "decreased_morale"
				duration = 300
			}
			random_owned = {
				limit = { is_core = THIS }
				revolutionary_rebels = 1
			}
		}
		change_controller = REB
	}
}



# Army deserters
province_event = {

	id = 3095
	
	trigger = {
		owner = {
			has_country_flag = civil_war
			war = no
			NOT = { has_country_flag = deserting_troops }
		}
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 24

		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { is_monarch_leader = yes }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			NOT = { prestige = 0.01 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { ADM = 7 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { ADM = 8 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { MIL = 7 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			owner = { MIL = 8 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { ADM = 5 } }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { ADM = 4 } }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { MIL = 5 } }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			owner = { NOT = { MIL = 4 } }
		}		
	}
	
	title = "EVTNAME3095"
	desc = "EVTDESC3095"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA3095"			# Try to strengthen their morale
		owner = {
			set_country_flag = deserting_troops
			treasury = -60
			add_country_modifier = {
				name = "morale_boost"
				duration = 300
			}
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB3095"			# We have no resources for that
		owner = {
			set_country_flag = deserting_troops
			add_country_modifier = {
				name = "deserters"
				duration = 300
			}
		}
		change_manpower = -1
	}
}


# Retreating rebels
country_event = {

	id = 3096

	
	trigger = {
		has_country_flag = civil_war
		MIL = 5
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 48

		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			stability = 1
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			stability = 2
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			stability = 3
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			prestige = 0.2
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			prestige = 0.3
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			prestige = 0.4
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			NOT = { prestige = 0.01 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			NOT = { stability = 0 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			has_country_flag = deserting_troops
		}
	}
	
	title = "EVTNAME3096"
	desc = "EVTDESC3096"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA3096"			# Prepare for a final battle
		clr_country_flag = civil_war
		clr_country_flag = allies
		clr_country_flag = unscrupulous_inlaws
		clr_country_flag = rebel_control
		clr_country_flag = deserting_troops
		treasury = -65
		add_country_modifier = {
			name = "battle_preparations"
			duration = 100
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB3096"			# Let them run
		clr_country_flag = civil_war
		clr_country_flag = allies
		clr_country_flag = unscrupulous_inlaws
		clr_country_flag = rebel_control
		clr_country_flag = deserting_troops	
		stability = 2
		badboy = -3
	}
}

The codes for the Civil war things.

 

[unmerged(150720)]

I really want to know what that game is gonna look like, is Liege gonna be the next France or is England taking advantage in France or are even the german and Italian minors gonna expand towards France now. Also Castille and Aragon could conquer France, this is really intresting i'd like to hear more from this game.

Edit: I see Aragon is spanish now

 

[Junuxx]

I'll keep you updated then England and Spain have been extremely timid the last century. Don't know why.

For now, it seems Liege and Flanders are more or less equal in power. Both now have cores on all their new provinces so they're relatively strong. But Liege has the disadvantages of being 1) a Theocracy and 2) cut in half. If I don't interfere, I expect Flanders will come out on top and maybe form the Netherlands.

 

[Julius.R]

Awesome, something like this happened to me in my game, Civil War in France, but they pulled out of it, and the BBB lives on

 

[unmerged(85536)]

Awesome, something like this happened to me in my game, Civil War in France, but they pulled out of it, and the BBB lives on

what a awesome event! its shame it so rarely fires...

 

[Will Lucky]

Beautiful, I really wish I did see more of this.

 

[BonSequitur]

What are you doing playing Meissen? Get back to Trebizond!

 

[Belegorm]

I think I've twice used sow discontent, and funded a bunch of nationalists, and gotten a ring of enemies around France (got Foix to get almost as powerful as France), but the BBB always bounded back. At the moment, I've got more power to sustain a war over time, while the BBB has its forces all concentrated in small areas, as doomstacks (overall we have roughly the same amount of forces, but I can't use all as last time I used all against BBB the Netherlands backstabbed me, temporarily taking control of northern Germany).

I believe nothing other than this civil war, or reducing the BBB to 4 provinces max would stop them from forming the huge blob again.

 

[atrevir]

one word. Sick

 

[Belegorm]

What would I give to have the situation like this, in my game...

Of course, during one of my (fairly short) wars with France, I probably could have gotten this result, by just getting 100% WS and increasing their WE; only I just wanted Rousillon, Languedoc and Provence. I didn't care about them releasing more states, I just wanted the darn wars to end and to have some peace with my peaceful king (I've had diplomatic kings for a while now; I've come to take it for granted that diplo-annexations will always work, with 2-3 tries).

Now I regret not having driven them further into the dust, as they destroyed Foix (which used to own half of France), Luxembourg, Provence, and Burgundy (curiously, Toulouse was freed, though). At least the whole west coast of France is held by the British (who seem to be France's friends these days), and the Med. coast is held by myself. The major problem with a war with France (I've already gotten a CB on them as I pressed a border dispute for a territory), is that Great Britain guarentees France for some reason (idiots). They also guarentee the Netherlands. Therefore, any attempt at war and I'm in a major fix with a major naval war (which probably won't go too well; my fleet is about the same size but they've got some naval NI's and admirals).

 

[jonlucero]

aha! the french decided to make an aggloremation of states themselves somewhat like the HRE of their own..