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Don_Quijote said:
:eek:o You understood me perfectly; "Hal" is my concept of eu2's Poland :rofl:

Hm interesting point of view...

BTW Is there is any way to edit name of my country from "Austria" to "Austrian-Polish commonwealth"? :) Or edit flag to polish white eagle? :D
 

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Don_Quijote said:
be merciful with him :( , please

Of course you mean I should be mercifull for OE. We will see maybe I will, maybe I will.
 

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von Diplomacy said:
Since there is no perm player for Russia I would offer my services as the new Russian perm. Since Russia does not demand much trade, Portugal is in a quite a good shape and I do not blieve it will be too hard finding it a competent sub.

If all others will agree for such transfer, I do not mind to welcome you as new permanent Russia.
 

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Don_Quijote said:
GM - Urko.de.Sevilla (also known as Don_Quijote)
Sub of the GM - Fraese
Host 1 - Fraese
Sub of the host - Hal
Editor - Urko

With my router problems, chat bugs, and rather slow connection (256kb upload), it is not good idea to use me as host's sub.
 

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HALNY (HAL) said:
Hm interesting point of view...

BTW Is there is any way to edit name of my country from "Austria" to "Austrian-Polish commonwealth"? :) Or edit flag to polish white eagle? :D

It would need for all players to be transfered the flag in question, while the name would really require a big mod. Would slow down the next session making all the transfers, not possible. Still, you can rename your monarchs, Leaders and Cities as you prefer, as all can do ;)
 

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Don_Quijote said:
You're right. I like the way you talk to Ottomans, they may be crushed even ;) :rolleyes:

I am not so bloodfirsty as Sultan is. Even if I manage to defeat OE somehow, I will not crush them.

Do you remember when polish king Jan III Sobieski led austrian/european army of Leopold I, and defeated Turks under Vienna? He could go after them and kill all, but he was a great leader and had a respect for his enemies, so they were let to escape back to Ottoman Empire.

Beside after the Vienna victory, when welcomed by the Austrian Emperor Leopold I, Jan Sobieski reportedly paraphrased the words of Julius Caesar by saying, 'Veni, vidi, Deus vicit,' (I came, I saw, God carried the victory). Indeed, the victory of the Poles supported by the Emperor's army, broke the Turkish power which never recovered from the defeat. In the 18th century, a partition of Turkey was even contemplated, but never took place. However, partition is what happened to Poland. Characteristically, Turkey, which had fought our ancestors for over two hundred and fifty years, was the only state in Europe that never recognised the partitioning of Poland.
So it seems respect was return. I wish our OE (read: Javi Pibe) also has respect for me as I have for him.
 

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Don_Quijote said:
It would need for all players to be transfered the flag in question, while the name would really require a big mod. Would slow down the next session making all the transfers, not possible. Still, you can rename your monarchs, Leaders and Cities as you prefer, as all can do ;)

So how you are changing Venice into Italy?
 

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HALNY (HAL) said:
I am not so bloodfirsty as Sultan is. Even if I manage to defeat OE somehow, I will not crush them.

Do you remember when polish king Jan III Sobieski led austrian/european army of Leopold I, and defeated Turks under Vienna? He could go after them and kill all, but he was a great leader and had a respect for his enemies, so they were let to escape back to Ottoman Empire.

Beside after the Vienna victory, when welcomed by the Austrian Emperor Leopold I, Jan Sobieski reportedly paraphrased the words of Julius Caesar by saying, 'Veni, vidi, Deus vicit,' (I came, I saw, God carried the victory). Indeed, the victory of the Poles supported by the Emperor's army, broke the Turkish power which never recovered from the defeat. In the 18th century, a partition of Turkey was even contemplated, but never took place. However, partition is what happened to Poland. Characteristically, Turkey, which had fought our ancestors for over two hundred and fifty years, was the only state in Europe that never recognised the partitioning of Poland.
So it seems respect was return. I wish our OE (read: Javi Pibe) also has respect for me as I have for him.

I cannot deny that that history lesson creates admiration for Polish Kingdom :)
 

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Don_Quijote said:
The game has already the Italian TAG and flag. :(

Eh, ok I am 1/5 austrian baron, so I can live with Austria :)
 

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Don_Quijote said:
I cannot deny that that history lesson creates admiration for Polish Kingdom :)

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Battle under Trzciana, where hetman Koniecpolski defeated Gustaw Adolf
(btw, Koniecpolski defeated Gustav 3 times, so I have no idea why he has worse stats in EU2...)​


You have no idea how much Europe owe to Poland and how mighty empire we were in the past. Unfortunately our ancestors did not care when hostile neighbours start to planing finishing us. Now even memory of polish splendour is forgotten (mostly thanks to communistic propaganda, which was afraid that memories of Golden Age and hostile actions of Russia will make people resist for socialism).
 
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HALNY (HAL) said:
rtrzcian.jpg
Battle under Trzciana, where hetman Koniecpolski defeated Gustaw Adolf
(btw, Koniecpolski defeated Gustav 3 times, so I have no idea why he has worse stats in EU2...)​


You have no idea how much Europe owe to Poland and how mighty empire we were in the past. Unfortunately our ancestors did not care when hostile neighbours start to planing finishing us. Now even memory of polish splendour is forgotten (mostly thanks to communistic propaganda, which was afraid that memories of Golden Age and hostile actions of Russia will make people resist for socialism).

Paradox creators are Swedes :rofl: How telling them Gustav was not as might military as they think? :)

I am also mad about the stats of many Spanish kings compred to French and English, and about the events/leader/king's skills/cores/cultures etc Spain has in eu2 :( . May be because of the Spanish bad propaganda.

But truly, as every politic knows, there's something worse than bad propaganda; unexistance of any propaganda. The unknown about Polish history will not really make many historians think they can sell the book of Polish history, so won't really make it here :( :( .
 

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Don_Quijote said:
But truly, as every politic knows, there's something worse than bad propaganda; unexistance of any propaganda. The unknown about Polish history will not really make many historians think they can sell the book of Polish history, so won't really make it here :( :( .

Fortunately there is also Internet, so if you wish I can give you some interesting positions about polish history. But lets do this on icq. I have feeling, that some of people might be annoyed by our historical chating here :)
 

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Uniting the "Boot" (1598 - 1628)

In the eve of the XVI. Century the Republic of Venice had expanded both in size and in economic potency. Yet even after defeating France in the terrible 5 years war and thus liberating Genova, Venice remained a relative insignificant and small Republic. It´s entire power was based on trade and careful diplomacy and while many powers in Europe were already vast in size, Venice was very vulnerable, having almost no defensive depth whatsoever.
Hence, when in 1600 the brilliant Administrator and Diplomat, Giovanni Anteponti, was elected Doge, he immediately tried to negotiate an alliance pact with Spain, the then most powerfull empire in Europe, in order to secure Venices independence and borders and ultimately unite all of Italy true peacefull means. In this he was successfull, alas Venice was treated entirely without respect from the very beginning of this alliance. The spanish King seemed to view Italians in general and Venice in particular as inferiour to the iberian peoples. Hence he rejected all pleas of the Republic of assistance and help. First he bluntly ignored a request to share maps and then later on responded most ungraciously to venetian dreams of buying Southitaly and thus uniting all of Italy in some distant future.
Giovanni and the Doges after him were most troubled and aggrieved by this situation. Again and again attempts were undertaken to find a way to resolve this dispute peacefully, yet the stubborn King of Spain did not seem to realize the effect of his policy towards Venice and the dire consequences the said was leading to. Also, being a Democracy Venice was forced to take the public opinion into account, which was increasingly antispanish, in consequence of the many italian lands occupied by Spain.
Meanwhile secret talks were held with the illustrious Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, a most wise and prudent Monarch indeed.
These talks were held in an atmosphere of mutual respect and benevolency and soon culminated in a secret pact of cooperation. The Sultan would help Venice to unite Italy and Venice in return would assist the Ottoman Empire in breaking the spanish hegemony over Europe. Working together, a complex battleplan was drawn up and finaly, on march 30th 1612, war was declared on Spain.
A relatively relaxed conflict followed with the combined OE/Venetian fleet hunting for the spanish one. Soon however Napoli, Apulia, Sicily and Tangiers had fallen to our combined forces and Spain seemed unwilling to continue to fight. Hence on August 28th 1613 Peace was signed giving Southitaly to Venice and Tangiers to the Ottoman Empire. General Jubilation marked the end of war in Italy, with bells ringing and people weeping joyfully, as a new and grand Nation had been formed, a new Italy had been born and only
god himself could tell, what it´s destiny might be.
Standing in Rome, cheered by thousands, the new elected Consul of all Italy, Franco Centurioni, looked dreamily over the ocean...
It seemed as if the spirit of the Romans had arisen again....like a pheonix out of the ashes...

p.s. : - Badboy for me please
 
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I was told you might need a sub for Spain. My ICQ is 280.880.064 & I will be in vnet at game time unless someone ICQs telling me otherwise.
 

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Vendere Sacerdo said:
I was told you might need a sub for Spain. My ICQ is 280.880.064 & I will be in vnet at game time unless someone ICQs telling me otherwise.

Great!

BTW - I also support VD's move to Russia. I hope we can continue the tradition of Swedish/Russian peace and concord!

Swedish Diplomacy:

England: Best of friends.
Russia: Friendly, please talk to us about an extension of our traditional NAP
Austria: please don't think about taking our German provs :)
Spain/Portugal: ToT Colonization agreement rights sorted out.
France/NL: let's sign an NAP
Italy: the soft underbelly of europe? hehe, just kidding. neutral.
Ottomans: as long as Pibe doesn't get the wrong idea about our relationship I'm friendly :rolleyes: (hint: it's non sexual! don't forget it!)
 
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Sweden: 1597-1624

The Age of Industrialization


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Peasants: Simply Revolting!

This era began with the construction of three new refineries to add to Sweden's burgeoning whisky trade. Shortly after the completion of these manufactories, a series of events began that would end with Sweden posessing the world's largest number of manufactories of every category except the arts. This says as much about the practical character of the Swedish people as it does about their stability costs - the Swedish government has never felt it practical to invest in art when every 5 years some new idea or policy destabilizes the realm. Once the common people learn to accept the orders of the government with complete faith and serenity, we can give them fine art galleries, museums, zoos, and every entertainment, but until then, it would be money down the proverbial toilet :eek:o

During this period, Sweden engaged in two wars; first, with the Mughal Empire - the famous 30 days war. Rather than the 30 years some pundits anticipated Gustavus Adolphus would spend in the east fighting the Mughal hordes, the remarkable general invaded, assaulted, and conquered Ganges in only a month. Following this quick victory, Gustavus Adolphus turned East and sailed to Nippon, where he planned to bring civilization and enlightenment to a quant culture ignorant of the progress of the West. However, the inadequate preparation of Swedish mapmakers, and Adolphus' relative isolation from European communications, lead to a grave misunderstanding that threatened European peace and harmony. Japan was already being civilized, by the noble Dutch traders, who had settled in a northern province unknown to Vasa's expedition. When this was discovered, Adolphus worried that the Dutch might be so offended as to make war on the Swedish fatherland, but the reasonable Dutch offered a white peace which was quickly signed.

Looking for opportunities, Adolphus turned to China, a once powerful state recently humbled by the Spanish and Portugese legions. With Wrangel, his faithful co-commander, Adolphus routed the Chinese forces and captured a second Eastern CoT. His eastern adventures complete, Adolphus left a significant garrison in each of the capture CoT's, and headed for home.

There, he found a country in total disarray, the effect of the recent industrialization. As workers moved from countryside to city to work in the manufactories, considerable discontent emerged from the inadequate conditions in the cities. The government had become so unpopular that citizens were leaving in boats for Argentina, without even the permission of the Spanish government, as Adolphus discovered when the Spanish ambassador issued a formal protest. Reacting quickly, G2A made a formal agreement to purchase colonization rights to those lands from Spain, and gave the departing settlers his blessing. There remains, however, considerable work for the great leader to do in improving the conditions of life for the workers and stabilizing his country to avoid the threat of civil war from dislocated peasants.
 

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after what Austria did during the several wars we had in 1500-1530 (Austria took Serbia and Bosnia unhonarourable), I've seen Hungary and vassalization perfect in exchange. Unfortunately breaking vassalization and now threatening with war because i refused to sell Hungary, it's enough for me to consider Austria an ethernal enemy, and it should be neutralized quick. I'm a sultan who dislike being sneaky, i go straight to the point, your words only make me think you won't stop until you get what you want, I double the bet, I won't stop until seeing you annexed, to arms!

I respect my enemies, I will bring a quick death to every austrian I find in my way, notice I won't torture anyone :)
 

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I've been mad repairing my work that did not work (but now works). :(

So i couldn't say much today. Anyway seems all is working fine.

Relations;

Sweden; *Forever the best*
Russia; I have business to talk with you
France; Nice to see your economical growth last session, we're happy to see how nicely live the people in Calais under your rule :)
Netherlands; WE've to talk about me bugying you a TP :) . Connect to icq and msn before game time, please :)
Venice; We'll keep having nice talks and big imports of spaghettis and wines from your country, no doubt ;)
Austria; Get free from Ottoman Rule... Save Europe ;)