I can't create a different variant classes from the same hull.

[Daniel Eyre]

I played my first post MTG game as the British Raj.

I got up to having researched the 1936 cruiser hull and the light & medium guns (and a few other weapons/components). I had a light cruiser designed from this hull with a fit-out of light guns, light armour and anti-submarine weapons.

Later I thought I'd get about desinging a heavy cruiser class from the same hull (that I'll probably never build as the British Raj) with heavier medium guns, heavier armour and a general gun fit out for more of an anti-surface focus. I also thought about another fight cruiser class on the same hull by with an AA/radar focus.

But for some reason it won't let me have a different light and heavy cruiser class. It just overwrites my light cruiser design.

Am I doing something wrong?
Is this a bug that effects the entire game?
Is this a bug that effects only some nations like the British Raj? Or which has been activated somewhere?

 

[TheDeathIncarnate]

Are you sure that you used empty hull and not the light cruiser hull when designing heavy cruiser?

 

[Daniel Eyre]

The empty hull has ceased to become available to select.

 

[TheDeathIncarnate]

check the box that says show older desings. Maybe it is there.

 

[Ethereld]

You can always duplicate your light cruiser class and build a heavy cruiser class from that new template. That said I think you may find the original template in outdated models

 

[Daniel Eyre]

check the box that says show older desings. Maybe it is there.

That said I think you may find the original template in outdated models

Nope. Not there.

You can always duplicate your light cruiser class and build a heavy cruiser class from that new template.

Tried that. No duplicate gets created

I think this might be a bug.

 

[jpd]

The "template" is actually a hull model/variant that isn't outfitted yet with the minimal needed modules to function as a warship.

What you most likely have done (I did/do this myself repeatedly as well), is to open the newly available hull "template", and instead of making a duplicate right then and there, you probably started adding modules right away, and saved your changes.

This updated the hull "template" to become a real ship. It works much the same as the division template editing. If you want to retain your empty hull "template", you must start by creating a duplicate, and add modules to this duplicate instead of the original.

 

[Ethereld]

Tried that. No duplicate gets created

Try to duplicate the template again, the whithout closing the ship designer, edit as you see fit and then save the new template with a different name.

It shouldn't overwrite your old template and instead you get a new ship class.

 

[Daniel Eyre]

The "template" is actually a hull model/variant that isn't outfitted yet with the minimal needed modules to function as a warship.

What you most likely have done (I did/do this myself repeatedly as well), is to open the newly available hull "template", and instead of making a duplicate right then and there, you probably started adding modules right away, and saved your changes.

This updated the hull "template" to become a real ship. It works much the same as the division template editing. If you want to retain your empty hull "template", you must start by creating a duplicate, and add modules to this duplicate instead of the original.

You can still duplicate any division. hy won't it let me duplicate my light cruiser?

 

[Daniel Eyre]

Try to duplicate the template again, the whithout closing the ship designer, edit as you see fit and then save the new template with a different name.

It shouldn't overwrite your old template and instead you get a new ship class.

That's not what's happening.

I think this is a bug.

 

[Hoi Neuling]

You need the XP Points from Naval Training / Naval Warfare to save that. If you haven´t the XP´s for it you won´t have it to upgrade the existing ones into that one.

 

[Whyareall]

Duplicate THEN change the design THEN save. If you save without changing it, it doesn't actually duplicate it

 

[Daniel Eyre]

You need the XP Points from Naval Training / Naval Warfare to save that. If you haven´t the XP´s for it you won´t have it to upgrade the existing ones into that one.

I tried using the console cheat to get more xp.
It didn't work.

Duplicate THEN change the design THEN save. If you save without changing it, it doesn't actually duplicate it

I tried to duplicate the light cruiser then save it. That didn't work.

Where do I report bugs?

 

[Whyareall]

Like I said, if you duplicate then save WITHOUT making any changes it doesn't duplicate. You need to save AFTER making at least one change, and not before.

"Duplicate -> save -> change -> save" leads to your original design being overwritten with your new design
"Duplicate -> change -> save" leaves your old design intact and gives you the new design as well.

Idk where to report bugs, but use this in the meantime to not overwrite your old models

 

[SeekTruthFromFx]

This issue has already been bug-reported.

 

[Daniel Eyre]

This issue has already been bug-reported.

Thank you I KNEW there was something fishy here.

Like I said, if you duplicate then save WITHOUT making any changes it doesn't duplicate. You need to save AFTER making at least one change, and not before.

"Duplicate -> save -> change -> save" leads to your original design being overwritten with your new design
"Duplicate -> change -> save" leaves your old design intact and gives you the new design as well.

Idk where to report bugs, but use this in the meantime to not overwrite your old models

Do you really imagine that I hadn't already tried that or that I didn't; understand you the first time when I told you it doesn't work?

 

[SeekTruthFromFx]

@Daniel Eyre, because you are playing as RAJ, there might be a second issue also affecting you. It's not a bug as such, but it's an oversight that the devs intend to correct.

Do you have any naval XP? In order to change designs, you need to have some. It's not clear to me from your OP whether you do. RAJ is almost only nation that cannot get naval XP from a focus. So you might need to use a Naval Theorist or an attaché (to a nation with a big navy) to get naval XP. If you have Death or Dishonor, then you might be able also license a ship design to get naval XP much more quickly.

 

[Whyareall]

Do you really imagine that I hadn't already tried that or that I didn't; understand you the first time when I told you it doesn't work?

The way you described it ("I tried to duplicate the light cruiser then save it. That didn't work.") made it sound like you tried to duplicate the CL then save it, not duplicate then modify then save

 

[Funkymatic]

I was experiencing this issue. I believe it is due to having an empty naming convention.

I just unlocked the 1940 Light Cruiser hull
> i use the empty template to outfit the design as i see fit.
> I name it
> I hit save. It saves as that name.
> But now there is no blank design/template even with the tick box to show obsolete
> I click Duplicate
> Make changes to the design i just duplicated
> Click save
> The original design name is overwritten. The original design no longer exists.

Also the original empty design does not exist.

However i just played around with it again and noticed if i had the naming drop down as 'None' it would overwrite the original design i had duplicated. Selecting any naming convention would create a new variant instead.

 

[billcorr]

I am having trouble with creating different ship variants, too.