Cars wear out, Software doesn't. Let's not re-open a weeks-closed debate by taking one part of a post out of context though.
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Cars wear out, Software doesn't. Let's not re-open a weeks-closed debate by taking one part of a post out of context though.
Saying what? CK2 is mainly on Steam but there's a GG version too - Covered in the topic. Weird anti-Steam rumors - Not worth making a FaQ on.
Guys, Dracon has his view and I doubt anyone is going to persuade him, so this is pointless. Please drop it before I have to close this thread.
Did you not read the thread title or something? There is a non-Steam version on GG. Non-Steam. Version. On GG. This means that the version on GG is non-Steam.
So:
You can turn off the popups/adverts if you don't like them.
Is the wait for your disc relevant? Surely relates to whoever shipped it to you, not us/Steam.
Steam requirement is on the box, it's always a good idea to check what you're buying. However, as far as I know the entire game is on the cd, what you downloaded is the updates added since release.
If you cannot read the box surely you read the product description on the website? Anyway, if you post Steam complaints in 2 separate threads it's going to be assumed you want replies, sorry.
Heh, first the Total War series games, then Civilization 5, Football Manager 2012, now possibly Paradox's games - I can shorty run out of my favourite series to follow. Thank god for Blizzard and Diablo 3 especially, I guess.
But...this thread is was about people mad that CK2 was on Steam only...and you own CK2...So either you got it via Steam and so can't mind it that much, or you noticed we did a non-Steam GG version and got that instead so there should be no reason to be mad at us because CK2 was not actually Steam only.
*sigh* there's really little I want less than a new pro/anti steam debate, but this is just such a baffling position. You have a DH AAR in your sig there, are you much of a WWI history fan? Do you ever read about, for example, the German decision not to develop tanks and think "How on earth can they not see the benefits? Why can't they see this is obviously the way forward?". That's the constant feeling I have in these threads
So you're claiming Steam is more focused on collecting and selling personal information than selling games? It's not a free social service like Facebook, nor are your complaints about Facebook or Origin relevant here. I'm also not sure how Steam would find my relationship/work/debt status. Sure they know what games I buy from them, but any company I buy from knows that. To some extent they know what games I play and how much, and perhaps my computer hardware (I forget if the hardware survey is optional, I think it might be), but that doesn't bother me in the least. Any company is interested in how customers use their products. They know my name and email, but so does any website or service I sign up with. So yeah, if I was worried enough about this not to use Steam I'd disconnect myself from the internet and buy everything with cash.
Also, this is a minor thing, but you don't need the Steam client running to play any Paradox internal title (Not done extensive tests, but I assume this is the same for any game sold via Steam that doesn't use Steamworks).
Also, this is a minor thing, but you don't need the Steam client running to play any Paradox internal title (Not done extensive tests, but I assume this is the same for any game sold via Steam that doesn't use Steamworks).
Any source for that? Forbes thinks Steam is fairly profitable and no mention is made of selling user data. I'd have thought that would be of interest in such and article if that were the case.