I call these screenshots 'arbitrary colonization regions'

[TheDarkMaster]

No CN for you Portugal! (Fifth province on the far right here is in a different colonial region then the rest. There are no free provinces available in the rest of the region that the other four are in.)

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Here Norway can't get a CN due to being split over two regions, and Brittany has formed a CN that has a completely issolated province. At the same time, England has a CN with two completely disjointed territories.

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EDIT:
Follow up to Norway's difficulties in getting a CN.

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They got it, but it's split into three distinct parts that are all rather distant from one another.

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Here is the final NA map from that test game. Seems very messy if you ask me. Only extra colonizers here that won't show up in the base game are The Hansa (New The Hansa), and the Incas (Nova Cusco and Oregon).

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I've noticed that the AI really likes to create as many different CNs as possible, so Castile grabbed almost the whole West Coast when it had the chance, but otherwise left the East Coast alone once they had a CN finished in the Eastern America zone.

 

[Miganto]

That's how some of the best wars start later on

 

[Bluehawk]

I half wish you could assign provinces to colonial nations the same as client states (will we start calling them CS's?), but there's probably some sort of balance issue to be had there.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Follow up to Norway's difficulties in getting a CN.

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They got it, but it's split into three distinct parts that are all rather distant from one another.

 

[Ralepozozaxe]

whats up with scotland?

 

[TheDarkMaster]

whats up with scotland?

They lost all but their capital to England in Great Britain after they'd colonized Newfoundland, so the AI relocated their capital there. Since the capital is no longer isolated, it can't be moved back to Europe, even though they've gotten a bunch of land back there from returned cores and rebels.

 

[Hakuromatsu]

I half wish you could assign provinces to colonial nations the same as client states (will we start calling them CS's?), but there's probably some sort of balance issue to be had there.

I'm ready to mod this at a moment's notice as soon as the same-continent restriction is moved to defines. Seriously, it's a no-brainer.

 

[Taterthomp2]

Follow up to Norway's difficulties in getting a CN.

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They got it, but it's split into three distinct parts that are all rather distant from one another.

KIND OF realistic, in the way they are all seperated like that... but...

the fact that one part isnt a colonial nation yet, while the others are, when they are touching, kind of makes it murky.

but IRL the east coast of america was filled iwth like 10 different euro colonies before british 13 colonies basiaally fought/bought them all out. new york city was dutch

 

[Nordhus]

Even Sweden had a colony on the Delaware river.

 

[Chewy Yui]

I half wish you could assign provinces to colonial nations the same as client states (will we start calling them CS's?), but there's probably some sort of balance issue to be had there.

Haven't played AoW yet, but I was hoping you could make a flag for a Colonial Nation the same way you can when you create a Client State. Someone should make it happen

 

[Ricox]

Haven't played AoW yet, but I was hoping you could make a flag for a Colonial Nation the same way you can when you create a Client State. Someone should make it happen

I would still love an option to make your own CNs like Client States, but perhaps have it as an additional option on start that cannot be enabled in Ironman and whatnot. Just to add more customization, would be lovely to have it and ignore the colonial regions (it's just singleplayer with no achievements and stuff - we can cheat, mod, do anything, so why not have this nice feature?).

 

[Chimerae]

New york city was dutch

I can only imagine how great is must be, if Dutch would have been world language number one. The rolling r, the gurgling g... Even outside your own country!


OT: Can overlord use colonialism CB of its colonial nations?

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Here is the final NA map from that test game. Seems very messy if you ask me. Only extra colonizers here that won't show up in the base game are The Hansa (New The Hansa), and the Incas (Nova Cusco and Oregon).

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I've noticed that the AI really likes to create as many different CNs as possible, so Castile grabbed almost the whole West Coast when it had the chance, but otherwise left the East Coast alone once they had a CN finished in the Eastern America zone.

 

[Te. Kenzo]

Infact I agree, saying that simply a colonial nation should spawn with a province, if the fate of colonization is to be a colonial nation after 5 provinces, why wait? 1 colony = 1 CN, this is the idea that I support. Also I think that see little colonial nations, and more bordering colonial nation can made the game very interesting in potential, with rivalry and more colonial war, showing the the new world in a clash for its hegemony.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Infact I agree, saying that simply a colonial nation should spawn with a province, if the fate of colonization is to be a colonial nation after 5 provinces, why wait? 1 colony = 1 CN, this is the idea that I support. Also I think that see little colonial nations, and more bordering colonial nation can made the game very interesting in potential, with rivalry and more colonial war, showing the the new world in a clash for its hegemony.

I think the biggest problem with that is that it's really easy for them to be annexed before they have a chance to call in their overlord to defend them. They're also too small to effectively run their province better then their overlord. The AI also seems to stop colonizing in that region once the CN forms, and moves onto another region to form a CN there instead.

 

[mcmanusaur]

Yep, colonial nations are basically a microcosm of Paradox's shortcomings when it comes to game design. Thankfully they churn out an insane amount of content, but their level of design acumen is often questionable...