I vassalized what was left of Prussia. Unfortunately, they have over 400 development, it seems impossible to annex them. Do I have to release them and conquer them again?
I bit off too much, is there any fix?
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What version are you playing on?
Vassal LD from development has been changed to 100% at 500 development in 1.20. Depending on other factors it might be doable.
Vassal LD from development has been changed to 100% at 500 development in 1.20. Depending on other factors it might be doable.
oww... well... you can devolp... their land(I Know its only gonna be short term invest after this time XD)
also you ... enter war and make them relase some countrys by "losing" the war(just incrase your warscore for some and in peace treaty relase nations from prussia)
also you ... enter war and make them relase some countrys by "losing" the war(just incrase your warscore for some and in peace treaty relase nations from prussia)
Yeah, overfeeding vassals ain't a good idea. My 1000 dev Flanders is only kept in check with constant placation and province feed.
This wasn't a case of overfeeding, they haven't gained a province since I took them. I had
been taking stuff fast enough that I was having a hard time keeping up on the coring, I figured I would use some diplo points instead--but the lowest liberty desire I've seen is 89%. Now that the #2 in the world has decided to support them their liberty desire has been pegged at 100%. (I'm #1 but I'm having to be careful about coalitions--most of the rest of the world would like to gang up on me if I were to show weakness.)
Yeah. Extended Timeline mod, almost max tech. 80-something warscore.
Kick the supporter in the face. The vassal will not rebel while you're at war because of some code quirk. This should both remove the support and give you some prestige.
Then drop your prestige into appeasing your vassal's butthead of a ruler and start annexing ASAP. Develop them a little if you need even more reduction for whatever reason. Keep a diplomat locking their opinion of you at cap too, that affects LD.
Then drop your prestige into appeasing your vassal's butthead of a ruler and start annexing ASAP. Develop them a little if you need even more reduction for whatever reason. Keep a diplomat locking their opinion of you at cap too, that affects LD.
I had the same problem as Ottomans. Released Persia from one province taken from QQ, forget the name but just south of Tabriz. Then Timurids collapsed to Persian rebels and my vassal suddenly had over 300 development (this was in the 1460s). Had opinion +215 but liberty desire still a flat 100% (from events).
Still have the game but haven't continued. I've no idea how to annex from there, especially as I play without any DLCs.
Still have the game but haven't continued. I've no idea how to annex from there, especially as I play without any DLCs.
You could use an exploit by march him and revoke it. It magically remove the liberty desire from getting province via rebels. It's worth the stab hit.
the contrary.
enable divert trade, and use their claims to declare on anyone big nearby. let them be overrun completely. let them suffer, while you improve relations. let them get loads of debt to maintain those forts. if you swim in money, build 80 level 8 forts in themn one on each province.
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before truce is up after 10+ years, you should be able to pay off huge debt, have +200 relations, a marriage, and maybe feed them couple provinces. they'll be happy once you pay their debt (don't let them go bankrupt!!!) couple times.
having equal dip tech then them also is ok idea, along with stacking diplo reputation.
I feed vassals prestige and they are happy until they are no more.
The issue with huge vassals is that they take ages to annex, so eat a lot of prestige in the meantime (and you cannot go negative prestige!!!)
The issue with huge vassals is that they take ages to annex, so eat a lot of prestige in the meantime (and you cannot go negative prestige!!!)
Declare war on #2 and white peace as soon as possible. They cant support your vassal if you have a truce. After that spend some prestige to get your vassals liberty desire down.
I've had their opinion at 200 before anyone was supporting them. I never got liberty desire below the high 80s. Two of their supporters are now dead, pretty soon I'm going to start munching on the big one. There are only four other nations left, one of which is my ally, one of which is an ally of my ally, a third that I have been guaranteeing for a long time to keep them from being eaten by the #2 in the world and Japan which I will digest in two more bites.
I don't think it's going to help with Prussia, though, and at present I don't want to release them because I'm not sure my ally can't eat them. He's otherwise boxed in but I'm not certain he can't core Prussia.