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Im sure this has been asked multiple times, but I was wondering if
in EU II both the city and the province population will be shown and also if fielding armies will have any affect on the population of the particular province/nation?
 

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Originally posted by paganmartyr5
Im sure this has been asked multiple times, but I was wondering if
in EU II both the city and the province population will be shown and also if fielding armies will have any affect on the population of the particular province/nation?

I have no idea what Paradox has in mind, but you should be aware that the overwhelming majority of the population in those days was engaged in farming and essentially not mobilizable for military purposes (nor did the ruling class want a peasantry trained to arms - armed men who have "seen the elephant" become difficult to oppress). Plus, for about the first 2/3 of the game period the troops were mainly mercenaries. Raising armies should have no significant effect on the population of the province.
 

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Re: Re: i bet most of you are tiring of this question..

Originally posted by Barnacle Bill


I have no idea what Paradox has in mind, but you should be aware that the overwhelming majority of the population in those days was engaged in farming and essentially not mobilizable for military purposes (nor did the ruling class want a peasantry trained to arms - armed men who have "seen the elephant" become difficult to oppress). Plus, for about the first 2/3 of the game period the troops were mainly mercenaries. Raising armies should have no significant effect on the population of the province.

Didn't the English field an essentially professional army during the Hundred Years war?

And weren't their yeoman class essentially peasants who were required to provide a weapon for themselves when called to arms?

I'm not 100% positive of this, but pretty sure...
 

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Re: Re: Re: i bet most of you are tiring of this question..

Originally posted by satan


Didn't the English field an essentially professional army during the Hundred Years war?

And weren't their yeoman class essentially peasants who were required to provide a weapon for themselves when called to arms?

I'm not 100% positive of this, but pretty sure...

I think this was especially true for archers, who were required to train regularly even if there wasn't any fighting going on.
 

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The Swedes had a system of "king's farms/manors" where the farm was obliged to send a soldier in exchange for the lease. In effect soldiering farmers.
 
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That system was the one used to levy troops from Norway by Denmark in the 1500 and 1600 hundreds... every farm or area of such and such size (can't remember exactly ) had to field one man with a rifle and set number of supplies and accessories (and after all he was someone on that farm's son). And that soldier had to periodicly attent some kind of training or learn his trade, though we are definately not talking well trained soldier here...more like this is a rifle, the bullet comes this way, you insert a new one this way etc etc... :)
But my point is that the peasants in that way were trained in the usse of arms and were forced by law to keep weapons ready...Though this levy or army was only actually called out during actual fighting.

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If I understand the definition correctly, yeomen were not peasants, but free farmers...
 

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Originally posted by Pirate Scum
If I understand the definition correctly, yeomen were not peasants, but free farmers...

I believe you have the definition of yeoman correct, but you're wrong on peasant.

Peasant != serf

The point being that many of these countries weren't afraid of their peasants and may have even been loved/respected by them so they would want them armed and trained.

Education on the other hand they might have been more afraid of.
 

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I suppose youre all right... however I still wish they would put a Province population. I would simply like to see what the pop. were at the time in each area, and cant find it anywhere on the web :)