I am deeply saddened about the state of educational historical television in the USA.

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There's the problem, "valuable information". If you're trying to give "valuable" information away, then either it's not valuable, or the recipients must also be valuable to you. Since the programs are partially funded by tax dollars, one might THINK that the taxpayers would be of some value to the producers, but apparently that's not the case, since the broadcasting stations which the programs are produced for are also partially or mainly funded by commercial advertisements. In selling ad space, it's imperative that the regular content doesn't "outshine" the ads, so the regular content needs to be heavily watered down to make car insurance and pharmaceutical ads and their ilk somehow seem appealing and interesting. Of course, those "ancient aliens" programs are there to make the ad content seem almost credible by comparison.

This is the most absurd conspiracy theory I ever heard. The value of an ad is dependent on the amount of people who watch it, and the amount of people who watch the ad is directly related to the amount of people who watch the main show. So, to make the ads valuable, the show must appeal to the largest possible audience. It's as simple as that.
 

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This is the most absurd conspiracy theory I ever heard. The value of an ad is dependent on the amount of people who watch it, and the amount of people who watch the ad is directly related to the amount of people who watch the main show. So, to make the ads valuable, the show must appeal to the largest possible audience. It's as simple as that.
more absurd than the one i heard TODAY about the mind-control / weather-altering facility in Alaska?

That one was a bit hard to swallow.
 

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It's television. Get over it.
 

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The problem isn't The History Channel, it's the viewers or lack thereof. They can't get enough viewers to justify making a lot of decent historical documentaries. It's more profitable to show yet another Pawn Stars rerun, so that's what they show.

However, even before they started with the reality shows, the conspiracy garbage and aliens it wasn't the greatest channel. A decade ago people called it the World War II channel because it showed almost nothing but WWII shows and practically ignored the rest of human history.
 

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I called it the Hitler Channel myself.

Which was more fair then WW2 channel I think, since it focused almost entirely on Nazi Germany. If I want decent documentaries these days I just go to Youtube myself. Depressing really, but docs don't get enough viewers these days.
 

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H2 is ok. Not very intellectual in content, but I do like the computer graphics, WWII historical footages and occasional reenactments. I dont like them calling every invention in China before the Qing dynasty and achievement of "Ancient China" though.

I guess we do get a bit more Asian centric content here in Singapore, largely on the Pacific War, which is the only theatre of war in Asia. :)

BBC Knowledge has much better content on history. And they are not even a full time history channel.

Why don't they:
1) Buy content from other providers and translate them into English?
2) Show some lectures or talks or roundtables by historians? (should be quite a cheap and often done by history channels in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan)
 

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I suppose there's only so much footage from WW2 (and 1) that eventually you run out.

The History Channel's descent into numb-TV isn't unique. It happens all across the board and european channels are for some reason buying this stuff AND making their own with a slightly tweaked format.

My main issue with US TV-programmes is the tendency to speak to the viewer as if he/she is a child. Plus the inherent repetitiveness. Someone buys a storage unit and finds stuff and yells or speaks in a much too high volume to be natural. Then they do it again and again, interrupted by infantile comments from the "scavengers".
This is the basic US tv-format at the moment, with only the venue changeing.

I'm sure there would have been an interesting documentary on the storage unit raiders, but the format was changed into this piece of shit.

Danish TV does sort of the same. We had a three-episode (or so) serious documentary about "young mothers" called, "The young mothers", about teen moms and their brief awkward boyfriends that abandoned them days after birth. It was sort of a "wake-up call" to the Danish public.
The producer, however, saw a market and made a followup programme, and another. And then he went all-in and made it a reality-show that "recruits" new young mothers (who are pretty far apart in Denmark), and after a season or two sort of devolved into "stupid mothers" because the age of the mothers were closing in on 25. This caused a spin-off "Me and my Mother", where the (formerly) young mothers now go on the town with their own mothers in what can only be staged mini-bachelorette parties, boob-job sessions, binge-drinking, tatooing and other irresponsible behaviour.

I sometimes think, that "Classic Car Rescue", Pawn-stars, Duck Dynasty, Sons of Guns etc. etc. began as ideas for documentaries or "one-off" shows - devolving into reality-shows, making the hosts or whatever become stars in their own right (not really) and make spin-offs or take the program away from it's original (mildly interesting) premise and moving it into the bedroom, where whoever's wife bitch and moan over nothing because the director tells her to, in an attempt to create fake conflict and then make dramatic photography and editing trying to trick the uneducated (US?) audience into thinking this has anything to do with reality, removing anything that could educate or promote reflection or afterthought.

Something similar happened on MTV, that was about music video's and things like that. Now it's poor reality programming far removed from anything musical-related, and serves not even to entertain, but to fill the time between the commercials.

No wonder Netflix etc. are destroying network TV.
 

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This seems adequate :)

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