I am consitently getting super russian rebels.

[FloatingOrb]

I am playing Denmark and have been experimenting with taking 8 provinces from novgorod so I can intergrate sweden before it rebels. The problem is that 5 times out of 6, the russians rebel, which inherently isnt a problem. The problem is the they are 16 stacks with generals, while my forcelimit is only 14. I literally cant put the rebellion down since vassals no longer help with your rebels (at least they never have for me). I thought that the rebels stack were based on your forcelimit to keep it semi fair.

The problem may be I set the new provinces to 75 autonomy to help unrest, so they do not contribute much to my forcelimit. If that's the case, I think the system needs a rebalance. Or at least bring back the moral nerf to rebels, since these suckers also have higher moral than my army, at 0 war exhaustion and 30 ish prestige.

So, semi rant aside, is there a trick to dealing with rebels once they revolt that I am missing? This is getting frustrating.

Quick addition, I only have this problem with russian rebels. Everywhere else seems to be easier.

 

[yerm]

You say you are only having this problem with Russia but not everywhere else; what place somewhere else are you taking 8 (or close to it) provinces from yet not having the same problem?

I suspect the problem is that these places are a different religion, a different culture and culture group, and you're taking 8 of them all at once. Even with the same religion I'd expect you to run into a very similar issue if you full annexed Scotland or something. I'm sorry to tell you, but the solution may be to simply not take 8 places like this all at once; you may have better luck from regions that like Danes and the Pope more.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

You say you are only having this problem with Russia but not everywhere else; what place somewhere else are you taking 8 (or close to it) provinces from yet not having the same problem?

I suspect the problem is that these places are a different religion, a different culture and culture group, and you're taking 8 of them all at once. Even with the same religion I'd expect you to run into a very similar issue if you full annexed Scotland or something. I'm sorry to tell you, but the solution may be to simply not take 8 places like this all at once; you may have better luck from regions that like Danes and the Pope more.

The primary issue is that all 8 provinces are identical rebel types. The way the mechanic works now, that is the worst case scenario possible. Russian probably becomes accepted post-coring, but it's still wrong-religion and so harsh treatment can't keep up either. You'd be better served taking fewer provinces (rich as you can get them at least) and then using another war as a holdover to keep Sweden in check.

 

[FloatingOrb]

When I say anywhere else, I mean other games where I do large land grabs like this. Although the different religion is probably the main cause. Still, does anyone have any tricks to whack a mole rebels? other than just toss troops into them?

 

[yerm]

You could try giving some of the land to Holstein or even Denmark, even if they can't core it, to split it up a bit. You could try taking less land all at once or all of one kind, such as grabbing a chunk of each knightly order and east Frisia. If you overlap wars, it shouldn't give Sweden a chance to get uppity, and can be dragged out far longer than a single war on Novgorod. As TMIT says your problem is in large part that all the provinces are identical rebel types - this means that you have 8 provinces all contributing to the same revolt risk pool, making it unavoidable. If you have 4 different rebellion types, each rebellion is relatively 4 times as long before it springs up, giving you a much better chance to prevent it.

 

[Pellucid]

Isn't Livonian Order 8 provinces?

 

[yerm]

Isn't Livonian Order 8 provinces?

They are catholic, and different cultures, and you aren't required to take everything in one grab.

 

[ahyangyi]

Well, is releasing those provinces as a vassal a solution for you? You get the immediate problem fixed, and you can annex them later when you are ready.

 

[Alerias]

Have you tried stopping their humanitarian convoys?

 

[FloatingOrb]

Just tried taking the livonian order instead, not sure why I didn't think of it. Much more manageable.

 

[marat271]

Have you tried stopping their humanitarian convoys?

What? You mean those harmless horse-wagons that have crossed Denmark's borders for the past few months? They're pretty much harmless.

*2 weeks later: 30k rebels spawn with rifles and tanks*

I just don't know what went wrong!

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Have you tried stopping their humanitarian convoys?

I think those are just called soldiers back then, possibly irregulars in the case of patriot rebels .

Besides, these guys are coming from Novgorod, so they're probably fighting for their freedom or some such picture of braveheart.

 

[marat271]

I think those are just called soldiers back then, possibly irregulars in the case of patriot rebels .

Besides, these guys are coming from Novgorod, so they're probably fighting for their freedom or some such picture of braveheart.

They may take our oil, but they will never take our freedom!