So I decided to try the Hundred Years' war as England in 1.8.1 and found that I was able to win it 3/5 times, without too many issues. I even won it during the war of the roses once, and still won the war of the roses. After that, it's just way too easy to blob all over Europe. Has anyone else noticed the massive change, and what exactly causes England to be so much stronger?
HYW too easy?
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The player could consistently win it regardless. It is not a good case to nerf England or buff France, as the AI routinely loses the HYW to France anyways.
Besides, if you were wanting a hard campaign, you probably wouldn't be playing England anyways.
Besides, if you were wanting a hard campaign, you probably wouldn't be playing England anyways.
The combat AI is a total idiot in 1.8 maybe coz of that?
[But PI told it will be fixed in 1.9 so enjoy it while it lasts.]
[But PI told it will be fixed in 1.9 so enjoy it while it lasts.]
Here's a suggestion if you find blobbing to Europe boring. Don't take the French provinces. It's possible to play enjoyable colonial English game without expanding to Continental Europe.
What? I noticed the AI England wins the HYW regularly in 1.8, I had them win or winning 14/16 of the times with 8 of them enforcing the PU on Ironman.
Are you running vanilla or the beta patch, because every Ironman game I've run in 1.8.1 has seen England get BTFO'd by France in short order. Though, to the credit of the English, I did watch them pull off a very impressive early Dunkirk in terms of evacuating their troops from the continent before the French got them.
I suppose the reason is better naval AI.
Who'd guess they would ever fix that.
I did a defesnive war versus england, and my allies massively sent invasion forces to ireland. They were even smart enough to *not* invade england, since they had 40+k troops there.
Reason france loses is because it splits its army for sieges. If England AI performs well, it can stack wipe siege armies one by one, and kill a reinforcing army aswell... Not to mention Provence can peace out if Savoy or whoever decides to attack them during HYW.
Ai got changed to *not* behave same each game.
Just my to cents.
France is NOT OP if dealt with early.
Who'd guess they would ever fix that.
I did a defesnive war versus england, and my allies massively sent invasion forces to ireland. They were even smart enough to *not* invade england, since they had 40+k troops there.
Reason france loses is because it splits its army for sieges. If England AI performs well, it can stack wipe siege armies one by one, and kill a reinforcing army aswell... Not to mention Provence can peace out if Savoy or whoever decides to attack them during HYW.
Ai got changed to *not* behave same each game.
Just my to cents.
France is NOT OP if dealt with early.
First 15 was 1.8 was me trying to get Byzantium game off the ground in 1.8 and England won the first 14 times, while last two I was able to get a successful Byzantium game running again but England lost the HYW. In my current run I'm playing Brandenburg which is a 1.8.1 game and France managed to drive English out.
I have seen France dominate HYW in every game in 1.8 and 1.8.1, so I find this hard to believe. I can probably buy it happening once in the hands of AI, but I've never seen England win in the hands of the AI, so I'm very doubtful of it happening multiple times.
I've not yet seen them enfore the PU, but they do seem to fare better overall. I haven't even noticed improved AI, I think the major change for them is the new trade node.
I've never seen England win HYW in 1.8. I have however seen France being crushed by Burgundy three times.
I guess that's what happening Burgundy or some other power decides to DOW while stile busy with HYW.
Pictures or it didn't happen; even then I don't believe you, and I probably never will. Spain doesn't even form 14/16 times, and they have a freakin' event designed exclusively to have them form.
Even if Burgundy does intervene (more than likely they attack England anyways, because they know England is MUCH weaker than France), and even with some powerful Spanish allies, England will never get the war score needed to win the HYW, even if France loses against Burgundy. At some point Burgundy will peace out, and France will near bankrupt itself on Mercs to easily fend off the 8k stacks that England can land in France.
TL;DR - I call BS.
Which is great, because that'd be the AI acting rationally and exploiting its neighbours' weaknesses. Or, in other words, simply doing what a human player would do.
Well I'm guessing it was just a fluke than because I'm currently trying to see if they win again for a picture, and they have lost for about 6 in a row now. So I kind of gave up and moved on to playing another nation I haven't tried.