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Amazing. I heard people complain about 1.8 HYW being extremely hard compared to pre-1.8. You should post a more detailed AAR here (well, not a story, but just a tutorial of what you did in more detail) so it could help someone get through the war.
 

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Amazing. I heard people complain about 1.8 HYW being extremely hard compared to pre-1.8. You should post a more detailed AAR here (well, not a story, but just a tutorial of what you did in more detail) so it could help someone get through the war.

Weell, I mostly just did what I was told to do :)
 

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Has anyone played very far into the game after winning this war? I saw Aragon get a PU over France in my last game and the next thing I saw was France being burned to the ground by pretender rebels. It looked like France didn't like being the lesser part of a PU at all.
 

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Can you still let them declare an independence war, annex them and release as a vassal? The AE is large, but at this point every non ally in Western Europe hates you anyway. That was the best strategy in 1.7.
 

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Can you still let them declare an independence war, annex them and release as a vassal? The AE is large, but at this point every non ally in Western Europe hates you anyway. That was the best strategy in 1.7.
No, that doesn't work anymore. In fact they now also seem able to break the PU and declare war on you, using the Reconquest CB. Suspect the one was an intentional exploit nerf. Suspect the other is an unintentional bug. Suspect they're related, one being the unforeseen consequence of attempting to nerf a perceived exploit.
 

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No, that doesn't work anymore. In fact they now also seem able to break the PU and declare war on you, using the Reconquest CB. Suspect the one was an intentional exploit nerf. Suspect the other is an unintentional bug. Suspect they're related, one being the unforeseen consequence of attempting to nerf a perceived exploit.

So, a PU that rebels what happens now? You can't annex them in one go? Just have to break them up peace meal like Castile would? That seems tedious.
 

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So, a PU that rebels what happens now? You can't annex them in one go? Just have to break them up peace meal like Castile would? That seems tedious.
Yes, you lose the Union. You can't annex them it one go. And you don't get the union back, if you win. You do get a Restore PU CB, but you'd have to break the truce to use it. Unclear what happens if it's a PU that doesn't have access to another CB (or maybe just Reconquest CB?). Unclear if it can/will do a no-CB war?

So, yes, this will be tedious. May not make sense to try to do the PU, at all, now. Suspect it'd be better to just start the breakup in your first war, continue breaking them up if they join the Scotland war, then start eating the North with your claims, sloooowly, while slooowly feeding whoever you can vassalize in the South.