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Chapter 5.5 - Persia

IV and V Állandó Hadseregs had been withdrawn early from Spain not just to reduce Hungarian supply needs there but also to prepare for the next war. On the day that Spain surrendered, the 8th of August 1938, the two corps were already sitting on the Persian border hence a declaration of war was immediately sent to Tehran.
There was one slight problem however, although the two corps had already been in place for quite a few days, their supplies hadn't quite caught up and they were unable to launch an attack on the Persian border province of Khvoy.



After the conquest of Switzerland I had 7.22 leadership. It has now shot up to 7.87, an increase of 0.65. For many nations this would be considered a small increase, for Hungary who started with only 3.84, this is huge. As a result, I decide to start a couple of new research jobs, firstly Infantry Support Weapons to increase my troops' defensiveness. Although still primarily an offensive army I don't want the defensive side to lag too far behind, I'll need it eventually. Talking of lagging behind, that's exactly what my HQ divisions have been doing as the HQs have a speed of 3kph compared to the infantry's 4kph. Hence the second new research job is Mobile Warfare to add an extra 0.50 kph to the speed of my HQs.
Even with these two new research jobs I am still able to fund the training of 7.8 new officers per day. My officer ratio is currently at 177%, helped mainly by being able to put any extra leadership from occupied provinces before I annex them into officer training. Taking a bit of time before capturing the last required VP actually helps a bit in this respect as leadership gain from Collaboration Policy is a lot better than following annexation.



As well as a large leadership gain, Spain has also massively boosted my manpower income. From a prewar total of 12.0, I now get 15.4 manpower per month. I'll soon be able to start new builds on a regular basis. My IC on the other hand hasn't seen such great increases, base rising from 119 to 133 and effective from 190 to 216. This still means that I have a large shortfall in my IC compared to the builds I currently have queued. Even so, I add a couple of convoy transport serials as although I have plenty for my current needs, I am expecting those needs to shortly go up considerably.



Persia has a National Unity of 75% and a total of 7 VP points split up as follows: Tehran 2, Tabiz 1, Esfahan 1, Ahvaz 1, Bushehr 1, Bandar-e 'Abbas 1. Therefore, for them to surrender I need to capture all bar one of their VP provinces and as Bandar-e 'Abbas is the farthest away I will most likely go for the others. As I can't reach the Persian coast with my transport ships, the attack will have to solely rely on the overland route from the north east. As the Persian army shouldn't pose to great a problem for my two corps, a nice simple broad front strategy will be used with IV Állandó Hadsereg taking the northern end of the front and V Állandó Hadsereg the southern.



The army has waited for 10 days for supplies to finally catch up but they are now able to launch their attack. The Persians are fully mobilised and have the advantage of mountainous terrain so it will be a hard and bloody battle unfortunately. Hopefully once I am past the first few provinces and reach the plains and deserts beyond, Persian resistance will become a lot less. It's a shame I hadn't realised that I was out of supply when I declared war as the Persians have also now had a chance to dig in, making the battle just that bit harder.



With only two corps being utilised in Persia, the other three need something to do as idle soldiers can cause trouble. Thankfully, the Hungarian high command have a plan for them and war is also declared on Norway. This war will be conducted mostly by I and II Állandó Hadseregs with III Állandó Hadsereg in reserve. II and III are currently sitting in La Coruña waiting to be picked up but I Állandó Hadsereg go straight into action the moment the declaration is made.
Norway has a National Unity of 90% and two VP provinces, Oslo which is 5 points and Narvik which is similarly 5 points, hence I will need both. As elements of the Norwegian navy are sitting in both Oslo's and Narvik's harbours a direct assault is decided against. The plan instead calls for I Állandó Hadsereg to land near Tronheim, take the port and then head north towards Narvik. A second landing will then be conducted by II Állandó Hadsereg near Bergen, similarly they will take the port and then head eastwards towards Oslo.



The first landing is completed without a hitch and an attack is launched on Trondheim. It appears that Norway weren't ready for a war which is good news as fighting a mobilised army in the horrible terrain in Norway would not have been pleasant.
Interestingly, I receive news that New Zealand have decided to stop influencing me. This is rather odd, as I never heard that they had started or for that matter that France, the Allied nation that I thought was influencing me had stopped. On checking the diplomatic page, France are indeed still influencing me for the Allies so I'm not sure what is going on here. I have seen this kind of thing before so it is not a one off, just not sure what causes it though it's clearly a bug of some sort.
As you can also see, the battle for the Persian border province of Khvoy is still ongoing though it has now swung decidedly in my favour.



The battle for Khvoy ends up taking more than two weeks but I end up being victorious though for the loss of 2721 soldiers. Due to the length of the battle I occupy the province immediately and I am able to head on without any combat delay. Only troops from IV Állandó Hadsereg were involved in this first battle meaning that V Állandó Hadsereg can only now start their advance into Khvoy.



When I previously passed Bergen with my transports there had been an infantry division guarding the port city. However they have now disappeared off somewhere meaning that I can land directly in the city as well as outside it. On successfully landing I also find no Norwegian defenders nearby and I am able to start heading eastwards unopposed which is nice. I suspect the Norwegian army is all legging it northwards to counter my first landings around Trondheim. The transport ships are heading back to La Coruña to pick up III Állandó Hadsereg who will also be brought to Bergen although they won't bother themselves with advancing when they get there.
I also complete my first licensed build, an Interceptor squadron which for the moment will simply be added to the 1st Interceptor Wing. This will help reduce my build queue backlog somewhat.



Well it would of, but I have decided to add some more items to my build queue, 5 brigades of armoured cars. In conjunction with two light armoured brigades each, these will form my light armoured divisions and will also give the divisions the combined arms bonus. They have the added advantage that they are the same base speed as light armour, 9kph, meaning that they won't slow the divisions down. I'm a great fan of light armour, especially against the AI, as being able to zip around the back of the enemy very quickly can make the difference between winning or losing war.



I've found another German spy but they seem to be replacing them almost as fast as I can catch them which is frustrating. Meanwhile, I have won the battle for Trondheim and because I had sent troops around the rear to surround the port city, the three defending Norwegian divisions have been destroyed. That removes what is probably a good chunk of the Norwegian army and should make the rest of the campaign easier. Thus I Állandó Hadsereg have also secured themselves a port meaning that fresh supplies can be brought to them for the rest of their campaign.
If you look in the outliner, you will see that there is a difficult battle going on in Maku. This is the second mountain province on the IV Állandó Hadsereg's line of advance in northern Persia and this battle will prove to be another long and hard one.



8 days later, on the 18th of September, another German spy is caught, yet this is still not the last.
The advance northwards by I Állandó Hadsereg is ongoing and resistance has been minimal. However, as II Állandó Hadsereg have so far encountered no resistance on their march to Oslo I decide to take a small risk and start embarking a division onto my transports. The plan is to drop them into the province next to Narvik rather than making them walk all the way. There are still Norwegian ships berthed in Narvik hence why I don't intend to land my troops directly into the port although the Norwegian division defending it has decided to come south to meet me in Nesna.



Thankfully, the risk pays off and my troops are landed successfully and are subsequently able to take Narvik unopposed. With the first VP province down I am now halfway to conquering Norway. I notice however that there are only two Norwegian subs in the harbour when I arrive. On previous scouting missions along the coast my transports had spotted a heavy cruiser, I guess it must have sallied to try and catch my transports but thankfully wasn't able to catch them in time.



Down in the south of Norway, II Állandó Hadsereg have found it pretty easy going, only encountering one Norwegian division en route to Oslo. Having brushed this division aside, the lead elements of II Állandó Hadsereg are now next door to Oslo and having found the capital empty have started their advance. They will arrive at 5pm on the 23rd of September, meaning that this little war will end at midnight on the 24th. Although I would doubtless have won this war whatever the Norwegians did, their defensive strategy has been particularly poor.



It's been another long battle and again it's cost me a fair number of casualties but I have finally won the battle of Maku against the Persians. Many of the divisions in IV Állandó Hadsereg are now pretty low on org and in fact one division had to drop out of the battle after completely running out. V Állandó Hadsereg are having a much easier time of it on the southern axis of advance which is a good thing as they will eventually have further to go. They will however also hit mountains when they reach the coast but hopefully by then the Persians will have little fight left in them.



With me having occupied their capital, Norway surrenders and I annex them. Just before I do so, more Norwegian divisions start to show themselves but it is too little and far too late.



With the Norwegian campaign over, my leadership has now risen over 8 to 8.16. However, 0.07 of this is from the occupation of Persian Tabriz so in reality I have only gained 0.22 leadership from Norway. Still, not to be sniffed at, it all counts. It becomes trickier from now on to determine exactly what I gain from what as I have multiple campaigns going on.
As you can see, German spies are still at work disrupting my research. I'm still trying my hardest to get rid of them but they are proving to be tricky so and sos.



I now have a monthly gain of 16.3 manpower, a base IC of 144 and an effective IC of 234. Still someway short of the IC I need but I am getting there.
I have also received the slightly disturbing news that my annexation of Norway has prompted the Finns to mobilise. Slightly annoying but I can't really blame them, I guess they can see what is coming with the recent history that Hungary has.

 

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Spain I could understand, Persia is easy to see, but Norway? What was your logic for that, other than meglomania?:p
 

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Spain I could understand, Persia is easy to see, but Norway? What was your logic for that, other than meglomania?:p

What's wrong with a bit of good old fashioned megalomania?
I have to admit, one of the reasons was that it was there, easy to conquer and unaligned.
I do however have a better reason for attacking Norway which is that it provides me with valuable leadership and manpower, both of which I need to maximise as much as I can before I can take on any of the majors.
Bear in mind I have conquered half of Europe and I still can't match the amount of leadership that Guangxi Clique starts with.
It does mean I will end up with territories that will be hard to defend, however even if I am only able to keep them for a while, it's still leadership and manpower income that I otherwise wouldn't have gained.
 

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Can we have an over view shot? to see your full extent of the empire

Hiyas Helepolis and welcome to my AAR.
I would prefer to do one after another few months in game time if that's ok with you. Mainly because things will settle down for a while and will be a bit more stable. At the moment, the global map is changing every few weeks, a state of affairs that will persist until near the end of the year. At that point, I will set back and build up a bit whilst I watch the big boys start in on each other. Probably......
 

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Well, since your already have three corps up there in Norway, they could as well have a look at Sweden and Finland.
 

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Not a problem, I have been following the AAR, just enjoy seeing the overview. I know what you have taken, know what it kind of looks like in my head, just enjoy seeing the overall picture. However i know i can wait.

You won't have to wait long. I have just finished playing up until the middle of December from which I have 3 updates worth of material, the third of which will mostly be concerned with the state of the nation including an update on the map and also on how my various Generals are doing experience wise.
I just have to write the text and sort out the screenshots.
I will have the next update ready tomorrow and the following two either late tomorrow or Sunday.

Well, since your already have three corps up there in Norway, they could as well have a look at Sweden and Finland.

The disposition of some of my troops and the direction of travel of the ones leaving Oslo in the third from last screenshot would seem to indicate that Sweden is next in line. That and the fact that III Állandó Hadsereg have been brought to Norway though not actually used in the Norwegian campaign.
If I take one, I might as well take the lot, they would make a nice set. Just a shame that Denmark joined the Allies otherwise I could complete a Scandinavian collection and also close off the Baltic to the Allies.
 

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Sweden should be a push over and in Finland you can land behind their actual defensive lines. Their troops will be despersed at their Russian border. That will probably conclude the year 1938.

That supply situation in Persia looks really bad. Any plans on improving infrastructure in your newly liberated provinces?
 

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O.O A map maby ?

Will be coming shortly, just got to tidy up a few loose ends first.

Sweden should be a push over and in Finland you can land behind their actual defensive lines. Their troops will be despersed at their Russian border. That will probably conclude the year 1938.

That supply situation in Persia looks really bad. Any plans on improving infrastructure in your newly liberated provinces?

To capture Finland before the Winter War, Helsinki and co are fairly useless, the target you need to get is Viipuri in their defence lines. In fact, you only need Viipuri (I guess to try and simulate the Winter War).

Actually, its not that bad, I just hadn't given the network time. I had landed my troops as far east in Turkey as possible and then strat re-deployed them to the border. My supplies meanwhile were haing to come down one province per day from Budapest. Once they had actually caught up, the supply situation was a lot better.
Having said that, in the long run it might well be useful to build some infrastructure. There are two problems with this though. I don't yet have the tech to build factories, let alone infra. Secondly, my construction practical is non existant, hence infra will be expensive and also take well over a year to build each level :(
 

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To capture Finland before the Winter War, Helsinki and co are fairly useless, the target you need to get is Viipuri in their defence lines. In fact, you only need Viipuri (I guess to try and simulate the Winter War).

I'm a bit at a loss why you would want to fire the Winter War event. Annexing Finland right here and now would seem the logical step.
 

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how were you able to get the range of transports far enough to get to norway

Hiyas liger52496 and welcome to my AAR
One of the reasons for invading Spain was to get some more useful ports to base myself out of. I rebased my transports to La Coruña and their 3000km range did the rest, in fact I can roam all around the Baltic from La Coruña.

I'm a bit at a loss why you would want to fire the Winter War event. Annexing Finland right here and now would seem the logical step.

I indeed don't want to fire the Winter War, I want to grab Finland before the Soviets get the chance. I mentioned the Winter War as a possible reason for Finlands rather odd VP distribution which I will describe fully in the relavent update. Basically though, almost all their Victory Points are located in Viipuri, meaning that by capturing just Viipuri Finland will surrender. It also means that you have to capture Viipuri to get them to fold, no other combination will work.
 

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Chapter 5.6 - Sweden

Progress in Persia has been slow, not because of the enemy defence which although fierce hasn't actually slowed by troops up (apart from the one division which had to restart its advance into Maku due to running out of org), but simply due to the size of the provinces themselves. Other than the troops still fighting in Qorveh, all the rest of the Persian divisions visible are currently retreating.
I'm still catching German spies but they are still putting them back in. I was happier when they were trying to spam me with invites to the Axis which they can no longer do, I've now drifted too far away. The secondary result of my drift is that I can no longer buy production licenses off anyone, thankfully I got a load in when I could.



The start of October brings news that Sweden is mobilising. I guess they have spotted Hungarian troops massing on their border and have worked out that this is probably not good news for them.
Also with the new month, I have received a new influx of manpower and have decided to spend most of it on a couple of new infantry divisions. Neither of these new divisions will actually end up as infantry divisions but will actually be merged with two new HQs that I will need, a new Corps HQ for my upcoming armoured divisions and also a new Army HQ, 2.Hadtest, as I will then have more corps than I can fit in 1.Hadtest.



The 5th of October and I get a number of pieces of foreign news. Firstly, it seems that I may be back in favour with the Axis and I am very briefly influenced by Portugal. Portugal can't really afford to spend two leadership points on me per day and hence their attempt is cancelled almost immediately.
I also receive news that the Allies have been more successful with their use of influence and have managed to entice the Netherlands into their camp. This is actually bad news for the Allies, as with Belgium already in the Allies it gives Germany a way around the Maginot Line when war between the two factions eventually starts.
With these pieces of foreign news I check up on the situation in China and see that the war is starting to go badly for the Japanese with Shanxi now having pushed deeper into Manchukuo. It appears that this is going to go like many of my previous games with Manchukuo getting defeated and Japan eventually being pushed off the mainland altogether.
Finally, on hearing that I have cleared the last German spy that I know of I switch my Minister of Security back to József Széll as he doesn't incur me a dissent penalty. I'm not 100% clear on what counterintelligence does, I believe it makes enemy spies in Hungary less effective at what they do as opposed to counterespionage which makes it easier for me to catch them. Its not made abundantly clear from the tool tips or the game manual what some of the other bonuses do either, something that Paradox could do with improving maybe.



At 3pm on the 6th of October 1938, I declare war on Sweden. One of the reasons for choosing this time to declare war on Sweden is the hope that Sweden's navy will find it harder to spot my transport ships attempting a landing to the north of Stockholm in the dark. Its not dark yet, but it should be by the time any Swedish ships appear. I am more concerned with this landing than previous landings as it is closer to where the Swedish navy is currently berthed, in Stockholm.
Sweden has a National Unity of 88.8%, with the following VP locations: Stockholm 4, Falun 1, Karlstad 1, Göteborg 2, Malmö 1, Södertälje 1, a total of 10 points. This means that I have to capture them all apart from one of the single point locations.
The plan for the campaign is for III Állandó Hadsereg to land north of Stockholm and then take Falun as well as Stockholm and the adjacent Södertälje. II Állandó Hadsereg will head south from their start line near Oslo to capture Karlstad and the port of Göteborg whilst I Állandó Hadsereg guard the border and prevent any Swedish attempts to try and capture either of my Norwegian VPs.
I also order my Tactical Wing to perform a naval strike on the sea province that my transport fleet is in, in a hope that this might dissuade the Swedish navy from interfering. I'm not sure whether it will do any good, but they initially have nothing else to do.



I was right to be afraid of the Swedish navy and five hours before my landings are due to complete they turn up in the Western Gulf of Bothnia and
immediately engage my ships. So much for hoping that the darkness might protect me. This is even more galling as this landing wasn't even strictly necessary but was only put into action to speed up the overall invasion. My five transports have been engaged by two heavy cruisers and have already taken damage. Any ships lost here will also mean the loss of some of the embarked troops as the transport fleet is pretty much full.



Thankfully my troops all make it ashore safely, maybe the darkness and the thunderstorm that has started up have worked in my favour. Despite the troops now being on land I am still concerned for my ships as they are still being fired at by the Swedish navy though it appears that the Swedes may be retreating!



So much for the Vikingr spirit, the Swedish heavy cruisers have fled from my mighty fleet of transports! My ships have taken quite a bit of damage but importantly, none of them have been sunk. I start maneuvering them back to their home port in Oslo, taking care to give as much of a berth between my fleet and the port of Stockholm.



Following the good news from offshore, III Állandó Hadsereg swing into action with three divisions attacking the Swedish capital. Apparently there is only a HQ guarding the city and the only other unit visible in the area is a solitary brigade. It appears that the bulk of the Swedish army has been drawn towards I Állandó Hadsereg's positions on the Norwegian border, possibly because they were the first corps to mass on the border.



A Swedish division gets in the way of the advance of my northernmost division from II Állandó Hadsereg. It appears that the Swedes' mobilisation efforts have come too late and their division is only at 50% strength and low org.
I also receive news that the Allies have added yet another nation to their family with the inclusion of Venezuela. This could prove quite important as Venezuela produce a considerable amount of oil, a resource that the Axis might have trouble getting hold of when the war starts. Having said that, I have never had to buy oil in any of the games I have played in the past so maybe oil is not that crucial in HOI3.



I win the battle for Stockholm losing only 2 men in the process and can proceed to occupy the Swedish capital.
Meanwhile, down in Persia I am continuing to inch my way forwards and have now reached the border of the Persian capital Tehran. I can't attack yet due to combat delay but when I do victory should be fairly easy as there is only a single HQ to defend the city. It appears that the Persians put everything into the defense of their border provinces and have left themselves no defense in depth, meaning that my battles since have only been against HQs and dispirited troops who have already been forced to retreat a few times such as those in Garmi.



My transport ships have made it back safely to Oslo but they are not completely safe yet as a Swedish Naval Bomber squadron has arrived to try and finish the job that the Swedish navy started. Unfortunately for the Swedes, I have two interceptor squadrons set to the Intercept mission in Oslo and they scramble to attack the Navs.



I occupy Stockholm and start heading westwards to occupy the adjoining Södertälje. Further north my troops have also taken Falun unopposed whilst troops from II Állandó Hadsereg are about to do likewise with Karlstad. This only leaves the advance on and subsequent occupation of Göteborg to be necessary for the surrender of Sweden. Like the Norwegians before them, the Swedish army appear to have made a mess of the defense of their nation.



With the advance on Tehran having started I get the news that I would really have liked to receive as soon as I had annexed Spain, that Germany have started to influence me. Unlike Portugal before them, Germany can afford the two leadership points required to influence someone and hence this should stick. In some ways this is not so good for me as with France still influencing me I am almost half way towards the Allies now and still sliding slowly in their direction due to Germany's threat. I'm not overly bothered which corner I am in, the Allies or the Axis, as I just want to be able to buy production licenses. However I am currently in just the place I don't want to be, halfway between the two.



I've been continuing to harass the Swedish Naval Bombers with my Interceptors and they are now almost out of org and hence unable to damage my troop transports any further. As it is, they won't be able to do anything now as I have successfully occupied both Södertälje and Göteborg having discovered that Göteborg was indeed empty of defending troops. Hence I now just await the arrival of the Swedish diplomats to give me their surrender.



Although the Swedes gave me a bit of a scare at the start of the campaign it has ended up lasting less than 10 days. With the Swedish diplomats having arrived to offer their surrender I hear news that not all of their forces feel the same, with the sinking of one of my convoys off the Coast of Jutland. Too little and as with the Norwegians before them, far too late and as a result Sweden is annexed.
The 16th of October also brings further good news from my research laboratories with the completion of the projects into Capital Ship Main Armament, Battleship Armour and Battleship Engines. I am not yet satisfied with the level of these advances and order them to continue on the next levels.



As you can see, the latest battleship advances were only the 1918 levels and I still have a way to go before I am near to being up to date. My leadership is now up to 8.45 though this figure should be treated with caution as it includes provinces that have been occupied in Persia.



Similarly, the figures on the production page don't accurately reflect the gains made in Sweden but for completeness sake, my Manpower income is now 17.4 per month, my Base IC is 152 and my Effective IC is 247.
I also receive news that Denmark has taken fright at my annexation of Sweden and has decided to mobilise. This doesn't really concern me as Denmark have already joined the Allies and hence are currently relatively safe from me.

 

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Quite a grow from the small Hungary to the greater Hungarian Empire. The lack of leadership is still annoying. With so many countries annexed, it should be a lot higher. Also, I still feel that your armed forces are way too small and you really should expand on combat troops and Garrison units so they are in place once the sh*t hits then fan... which inevitably will happen sooner or later.
 

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Quite a grow from the small Hungary to the greater Hungarian Empire. The lack of leadership is still annoying. With so many countries annexed, it should be a lot higher. Also, I still feel that your armed forces are way too small and you really should expand on combat troops and Garrison units so they are in place once the sh*t hits then fan... which inevitably will happen sooner or later.

You're not the only one that feels that the leadership gain is too small for such a successful medium sized nation. In fact I also believe it is too small to start with when you compare it to the majors and also to some other nations like the various Chinese states.
There's a bit of a debate on the subject of medium nations here where some good solutions have been proposed.

I have until at least May '39 to get to work on enlarging my armed forces and I plan to build both more infantry divisions as well as some garrison divisions with some attached arty to cover my more important ports. Although my manpower income has been growing steadily, I am still limited somewhat by manpower so I haven't been able to expand nearly as much as I would like to up to now. However, my income is now a hell of a lot more than the 1.8 that I started the game with :)
 

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On the other hand, you IC has increased even more dramatically. Once your licenced builds are finished, you'll need to find advanced combat troops which require relatively few men to operate. Eg, build artillery brigades, detach one infantry brigade from each division / reinforced HQ and replace it with that artillery. That would enable you to have quite a lot more divisions without losing much combat value.