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TheAzureLiger

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So I was playing as an RD Ayleid ruler of Anvil in the final bookmark, with the goal of staying neutral in the big war.

Instead, I found myself dragged into the conflict when Mannimarco attempted to conquer me. I killed him, and that apparently gave the defeated Aldmeri Dominion the courage to challenge Cyrodill again. Cyrodill at this point had already defeated both Ayrenn and Emeric so that only left the Ebonheart Pact. The return of Ayrenn into the war with fresh troops allowed her to quickly defeat Cyrodill and claim the throne 40 years after game start.

That was 70 years ago.

Now, the Aldmeri Dominion and Ebonheart Pact are still at war more than 110 years after game start. At this point, Elsweyr and Valenwood have achieved independence (With Valenwood existing as a separate kingdom for only two decades before suddenly being absorbed into Elsweyr)

Since I was curious on what was taking so long, I joined the war on behalf of Ayrenn.

Lo and behold, Warscore was at 0%. Ayrenn had a perfect 100% score from winning all the battles, but she lost all her holdings in Cyrodill granting the Pact a perfect 100% score in occupation. If I hadn't decided to intervene, I wouldn't be surprised if this war extended all the way to 200 years after game start.

It's very interesting, but I gotta know, is it WAD for the war to last so long without player intervention?
 
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I've never seen the Alliance War last that long in my test games but I might get rid of the claims to the Empire that each attacker has. The claims don't do the Cumberland or Flame-Hair dynasties much good since they directly control less territory than the Dominion. Ayrenn, being a 20-something elf with amazing stats and a de jure empire is pretty uniquely positioned to contest the Ruby Throne even after the other alliance leaders are long dead. And if she can't contest it, an heir almost certainly will.
 
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Regarding what happened to Valenwood. The Mane started the independence faction against Ayrenn, the King of Valenwood joined him and since there's a massive bonus to opinion for Rebel Leaders, he got the King of Valenwood to convert to his religion.

This sparked a civil war in Valenwood when it was independent, and strangely enough, the title suddenly got dissolved and half of the vassals became vassals of the Mane while the rest became independent. It seems like a really strange turn of events, and I feel sorta bad for the Bosmer. Ruled by the Aldmer now they're ruled by the Khajit. What caused the Mane to become ruler though? Is it related to the religion of the Valenwood vassals? There was a war against the King but I can't remember what kind of revolt it was.
 

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Noob here. Since when is there an alliance war bookmark? I only have the interregnum, the kamal invasion and the black drake as bookmarks. Is there an update I missed or something?
 

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It's in the SVN version, not any of the full releases.