I have no problem with that - it being somewhat of a pyrrhic victory.
Hundred Years War as England now seriously approaching ''unwinnable by design''.
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I'm not saying it should be impossible for a human England to win the HYW in the game. I'm happy with the current situation where some players can do it (and some cannot). It happens seldom, but reasonably good players who set their mind on achieving it can. That's fine.
What I don't want is for it to be made *easier*. I don't think it needs to be harder, but I don't care if it is. However, I don't think it should be made any easier, so threads protesting and asking for the HYW to be made less difficult for the English side are bad ideas in my opinion.
Basically, England needed a Joan of Arc-style miracle to reverse the HYW in 1444. A reasonably good player putting a good amount of effort in it should be able to bring that kind of reversal around. But outside a good player focused on making it happen? It basically shouldn't happen.
What I don't want is for it to be made *easier*. I don't think it needs to be harder, but I don't care if it is. However, I don't think it should be made any easier, so threads protesting and asking for the HYW to be made less difficult for the English side are bad ideas in my opinion.
Basically, England needed a Joan of Arc-style miracle to reverse the HYW in 1444. A reasonably good player putting a good amount of effort in it should be able to bring that kind of reversal around. But outside a good player focused on making it happen? It basically shouldn't happen.
Can you still vassalize France by sieging all their provinces when they rebel in 1.8?
I had an AI England win the HYW in the last Castile game I played prepatch. That was a humdinger of a game too, because Byzantium beat back the Turks as well. If that happens to anyone else, let me make a suggestion; make nice to Anglo-Saxon France ASAP.
I'm trying to win as Byzantium but failed 10 times at the start, and yet all 10 times England was either winning or won the 100 years war.
Does this mean Switzerland is now significantly safer from attack than before?
I've looked and looked again. Bearn is a hill not a mountain.
Is the ground itself turning on the invader?
They changed terrain in 1.8 so there is only one terrain type per province, there used to be a chance of mountains in Bearn.
hah they had me confused properly there. I was looking for the % and then asking myself if that was in CK2.
Anyway, unless you can lure them to navarra or want to trudge over to dauphine you won't be getting mountain battles, and with the numbers and leader bonuses it's brutal. I think my days of winning it are over, I'll retreat and take my frustration out on ireland instead.
Well done to all who can do it though.
I won this war fairly clean, if you set aside the numerous amount of save scaming (and my manpower). I did manage to vassalize France, get the two core provinces in France (Burgundy and that little vassal), vassalize Scotland and Connaught under 10 or so years. And to top it off, my king Henry was infertile and I got the heir even where you pick the god-like heir ("- stars" or something), so now I have Alexander (6/5/6) ruling England. 
For those of you who can still win it, what do you do? France absolutely refuses to fight offensive battles in disadvantaged terrain now (mountains/hills).
Do they? They've charged me multiple times with their doomstacks in Aragon/Navarra, and gotten murdered for it. Try reducing your stack size to the bare minimum needed to hold out until reinforcements arrive.
I had 2 armies of 14 (10 infantry, 4 cavalry) all the time side by side and a whole bunch of mercenaries. You should try requesting access from Navarra and Brittany, it was easier attacking the besiegers of Normandy and south-western France from there.
By 1444 England had pretty much lost the HYW. Winning should be very hard indeed, but not impossible.
I'm still toying with it myself, some successes, some failures. You do have more money/loans for mercs, so a straight up battle in neutral terrain actually CAN work, but their general is going to be at least as good as yours. They do seem far more hesitant to attack in poor terrain, yet they do sometimes. Haven't figured out the rhyme or reason for that yet. FWIW, I'm having better luck in Dauphinne/Savoy then in Navara/Bearn, but that's a bit far to manage and I can't say I've been consistently successful yet.
Except for Portugal, that is. They're consistently useless. Oh, they'll happily join the war, but they don't seem inclined to attach themselves for the necessary field battles. They prefer to make a suicide beeline for some doomstack in central France by themselves. So maybe delay calling them in; they'll attach for some sieges, though, then you can use them for some mop up operations (while your doomstack tries to recover from the battle that nearly killed it). Overall, it feels easier, but maybe a bit less formulaic (or I'm still figuring out the forumulas). But you need to keep a sharp eye out for a late join by Hungary or Genoa, or whoever France cons into fighting its battles for it.
Except for Portugal, that is. They're consistently useless. Oh, they'll happily join the war, but they don't seem inclined to attach themselves for the necessary field battles. They prefer to make a suicide beeline for some doomstack in central France by themselves. So maybe delay calling them in; they'll attach for some sieges, though, then you can use them for some mop up operations (while your doomstack tries to recover from the battle that nearly killed it). Overall, it feels easier, but maybe a bit less formulaic (or I'm still figuring out the forumulas). But you need to keep a sharp eye out for a late join by Hungary or Genoa, or whoever France cons into fighting its battles for it.
To those that say that it would've been impossible from a non-military look for England to truly win the HYW, consider the Norman invasion of 1066, bit of an inverse scenario, but its rather easy to state that William the Conqueror didn't have much, if any of the English on his side, and his army was pretty small too. Most likely smaller than the difference between the English army and French population.
Improbable, yes.. Impossible, no. Which perhaps is what it should be inside of the game. And to some extent it is, for a few patches whenever i've won the HYW which is usually hard enough, France will wait until its recovered enough manpower and then try and break free, which wasn't fun the time they allied an Austria PU against me
Improbable, yes.. Impossible, no. Which perhaps is what it should be inside of the game. And to some extent it is, for a few patches whenever i've won the HYW which is usually hard enough, France will wait until its recovered enough manpower and then try and break free, which wasn't fun the time they allied an Austria PU against me
I've never been able to win the HYW before but now it is quite easy if you don't mind getting broke.