Humans are xenophiles? Really?
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Well, Buddhism is based on the belief that while humans might not be evil, the universe itself is so unrelentingly cruel that it's a categorical imperative to escape it. Hinduism and the Vedic religion, AFAIK, don't have a particularly strong stance on the inherent good or evil of humanity. Sinitic philosophies and religions do focus on the inherent goodness of individual humans, but have tended to argue that human society promotes evil. The classical division would be Confucianists saying that society good if only rituals are used to restore the natural and symbiotic relations between people, while Daoists say if only people stopped caring so much about social hierarchies we would naturally be good to each other again.
Abrahamic religions of course gave us the idea of original sin, that humans were good in the long long ago, but displeased God who thereby made us capable of evil and ever since people have been Hobbesian caricatures. Islam sidesteppes this a bit by saying that there's no free will and good and evil happen by divine whim.
Traditional and indigenous religions, generally lacking an all-encompassing moral philosophy, haven't tended to expound on the natural attributes of humans all that much. Still, there are numerous examples of myths that feature Secrets Man was Not Meant to Know, golden ages of man ruined by humanity, gods punishing humans for hubris, and so on.
I suspect humans have been declaring our lives nasty, brutish, and short ever since the first cave dweller refused to bathe, had to be forcefully evicted, and died at 24, which was a whole year younger than the life expectancy of the time.
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Even if it does grab the templates for humans, remember that there are two possible templates for us apes. The other being the "Commonwealth of Man" -- all I saw was that its government type is a "Military Dictatorship", but judging by the structure of the name, I'd bet it's the 40K to the UNE's Star Trek.
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not global conflicts, localized conflicts where the death count hardly compared with WW2
and the fights in the middle east today are not concerning to me either. after the initial advance of ISIS they have been slowly been pushed back by the allied nations, especially by the Kurds and the conflict is not spilling out into other middle eastern countries. Also while the videos and reports on what Isis is going is horrible, its not many people considering the population of earth is 7 billion
temperature rising is important and concerning and we will see more massive population migrations which we lead to instability but those are not really as horrible as warfare
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also the israeli Palestinian conflict is intractable and complicated but sorry again not that devastating compared to other wars
you had the 6 days war, compare that to the 30 years war that killed 3/4th of the german population
you had the 6 days war, compare that to the 30 years war that killed 3/4th of the german population
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This is not necessarily a commentary on humans as a species. It's simply how this society of humans evolved to be, in this fantasy universe. It's not a trait of the fenotype, but of the empire.
In many 4x games, there are multiple different playable races that are human. For instance, in Endless Space, you can play as the United Empire or as the Pilgrims, both are human-like in appearance (please, don't tell me if they're actually humans according to the lore, they obviously look human), but are separate empires and have completely different descriptions and ''ethos'' (to put it in Stellaris jargon).
In many 4x games, there are multiple different playable races that are human. For instance, in Endless Space, you can play as the United Empire or as the Pilgrims, both are human-like in appearance (please, don't tell me if they're actually humans according to the lore, they obviously look human), but are separate empires and have completely different descriptions and ''ethos'' (to put it in Stellaris jargon).
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Sure, they werent global conflicts, but as I said, the global conflict during that time was 50 years of cold war in addition to other local conflicts. And the balance that was created during that time broke appart in the last 25 years so I dont think we'll see less conflicts in the near future.
Well you can hardly compare a war from the 17th century (where most people were killed by disease and hunger) with a 6 day war...
All I said was that we had a long periode of mere peace and this periode is over due to a large variety of reasons.
true but i just wanted to point out the difference in the length of wars that has changed over time
i think the cold war is part of my point. The two superpowers were in competition but they never threw their military might directly at each other which is a big change from the rest of human history
and while yes there will still be conflicts, the size and scope are smaller then previous wars. All the wars today are internal civil wars or short skirmishes where the destruction and loss of life are much smaller
I agree, but not because they didnt want to annihilate the other side, but because they knew if one side started it, it would mean the end of mankind.
So after all, I wouldnt call 50 years short, even if it wasnt an all out war, they did fight several proxy wars though.
Concerning todays wars, they just changed. You cant win by military means only nowadays, even less then it was in the past. Well, we'll see what the future brings, hopefully you are right.
lol yes it was self serving but still a step in the right direction
i am right .... so lets start with the childish name calling!!
Well since we don't know any aliens to compare ourselves to we must look to the animal kingdom for any kind of reference, and humans are certainly quite individualistic compared to ants or even other social mammals like wolves or suricates. I also don't think it can be denied that there is some degree of longing in human culture to find extraterrestrial life, to know that we are not alone. How we would react on a political level is pretty difficult to know though and probably depends on power balance, if we knew that they could annihilate us easily a high degree of caution or even fear might dominate the human mindset in this matter.
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There are two premade human factions: The United Nations of Earth, the indirect nice democracy I guess. And the Commonwealth of Man, which I believe is a Millitary Dictatorship
Monica? Fluffy?lol yes it was self serving but still a step in the right direction
i am right .... so lets start with the childish name calling!!
Monica? Fluffy?
well checkmate, i dont know what you mean and dont how to respond
i tip my hat to you sir
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It isn't the United States of SpaceMerica
Speak for yourself. My Spacemerica is going to Make Space Great Again.
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Wiz mentioned it doesn't grab any of those templates, they're only for the player. It can randomize some form of human (or has a list of presets to pull from), but the starter options are for player comfort only- people who don't want to hit random or build something specific.
Which means no Blorg, unless someone codes them in specifically. Which is probably good, since they're while entertaining or a challenge to play, they aren't intended as a well designed opponent.
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