It would work in Astaru given that females are not allowed to inherit titles
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Huge nerf to the marriage game - women no longer receive any claims from succession
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It would work in Astaru given that females are not allowed to inherit titles
Nice, we waited 1 month for a patch just to wait again for another patch, if this thing will be fixed...
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Yes, they've made it so that the sons of princesses can't inherit claims (good bye, History!) but monks can become kings.
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I’m not really on one side or the other on this, because I haven’t had a chance to play it yet, but I’m thinking of hypothetical situation:
I start as the King of Asturias, (in 867). I wed one of Charles the Bald’s daughters for an alliance against the Ummayads. Under patch 1.1, my character’s children with the Princess of West Francia will no longer get unimpressed claims on West Francia, when she dies, regardless of marriage type?
I start as the King of Asturias, (in 867). I wed one of Charles the Bald’s daughters for an alliance against the Ummayads. Under patch 1.1, my character’s children with the Princess of West Francia will no longer get unimpressed claims on West Francia, when she dies, regardless of marriage type?
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Hopefully someone can work this out quickly.
I was very excited for 1.1, many great changes, but I have no interest in playing the game if this really is the case. I'm still giving Paradox the benefit of the doubt that if this is the case, it is a bug, because I can't imagine anyone intentionally designing this.
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Correct, you would have to marry one of your daughters matri to one of his sons to get the claim, since they've removed lineage authority from women in male dominated religions.
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Honestly I cannot imagine this is intended.
The dynastic marriage game is one of the core elements of the Crusader Kings franchise, this essentially removes that possibility which fundamentally changes the game.
It's also very problematic on historic grounds, because it means the only way to obtain claims is through matrilineal marriage, which didn't actually exist and are basically a feature implemented to prevent player game over.
The dynastic marriage game is one of the core elements of the Crusader Kings franchise, this essentially removes that possibility which fundamentally changes the game.
It's also very problematic on historic grounds, because it means the only way to obtain claims is through matrilineal marriage, which didn't actually exist and are basically a feature implemented to prevent player game over.
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And, unlike in CK II, you can't even turn it off...
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Yeah there's no way this was intended, it destroys one of the key purposes of the marriage game. Really hope they release a hotfix quick.
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Yeah instead of properly fixing matri marriage, as in your heir's heir is female and to decides to patri it off resulting in a game over if you have no male children (equal inheritance between male and female always chooses firstborn) So they do this instead of fixing this bug? It's still a bug even with male preference as if you don't have any sons the AI will just give away all their titles to some random they picked up out of the nearest village. Only Male Only didn't have this problem since it was never possible for women to inherit to start with meaning this problem doesn't actually arise and it stays stable.
As far as I know they only release hotfixes for things which cause crashes. Fingers crossed it isn't a month until the next bugfix patch though.
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Yes you are right, I was getting confused with the inheritance settings. Well, that kinda of sucks then xD I guess it would've been nice to have a sort of division between Strong Claims (inherited AND male in male dominated) and Weaker Claims (inherited AND woman in male dominated). Maybe they could cost a little bit more to declare.
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In that case I really hope they make an exception here. I've waited weeks for this patch, I don't wanna have to wait even longer. Sure it's not game breaking like a crash, but it is very frustrating.
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Yeah I completely agree with you, but we can only hope at this point. Everything else about this patch is so great - will absolutely kill me if I can't enjoy it because someone dropped the ball so badly on this change.
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