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Prufrock451

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Omit the continent trigger... unless you'd like an agrarian USA and an Australia full of roving shepherds... :D

Should also be tied to a trade level as well- without corporations and a ready market of capital investors, the industrial revolution wouldn't have gotten off the ground.
 

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Very interesting stuff. You could say I got somewhat lost on my trek along the EU site and ended up here. I'd nevertheless like to add my 2cts about Industrialization.

I understood from the FaQ that AoN is an extention to the original game. That should make it possible to create a Grand Event of Industrialization based on economic development in earlier centuries. Among the more obvious indicators of the high infrastructure and trade, perhaps a strong plutocracy and much money, I think that the degree in which improvements like governors and chief judges increase the demand for goods like Iron and Cloth. To put it in a crude formula: trigger= demandI/demandB > x. demandI stands for the increased demand for Iron and Cloth due to governors and chief judges, while demandB stands for the basic demand for Iron and Cloth without these improvements.

Needless to say, the evnet of industrialisation could cause large fluctiations in demand for goods like coal and iron. It would be really cool if you could add such a product like coal, though since I haven't any clue how much work that would take or if it would be possible at all..
 

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Actually, here's a question for you: is there any way to stop the game from making manufactories cost thousands of ducats after you have 10 or so?

Historically, manufactories became more common, but that's just not the way this game works...
 

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Originally posted by Prufrock451
Omit the continent trigger... unless you'd like an agrarian USA and an Australia full of roving shepherds... :D

Should also be tied to a trade level as well- without corporations and a ready market of capital investors, the industrial revolution wouldn't have gotten off the ground.


Its only the USA that matters...

Australia will be Great Britain controlled, as will canada... so the continent = Europe will be ok. It only looks for where the CAPITOL province is.

we could just use that event to trigger a seperate event for the usa.
 

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I'm really iffy on that... what if somehow we end up with a highly progressive Gran Colombia? Or if the Boers end up taking chunks out of South Africa? And what about the rapid industrialization of Japan after the Meiji Restoration?
 

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Originally posted by Prufrock451
I'm really iffy on that... what if somehow we end up with a highly progressive Gran Colombia? Or if the Boers end up taking chunks out of South Africa? And what about the rapid industrialization of Japan after the Meiji Restoration?

Well, would that really be a bad thing? Consider, you have played a game of the Grand Capaign starting in 1419, and done your best to make a non-european power the most advanced in technology and the most influential in economy. Would it make sense if Industrialization didn't start in your (non-European) nation?

Japan is a perfect example of a nation in which the Industrial Revolution was flared due to a political overhead BUT they didn't come up with Industrialisation themselves. Remember, they imitated, rather than innovated.

That final sentence might make for a fine guideline: Indutrial Revolutions start in economicly developed countries, but may be persued by centralistic, innovative countries once the Revolution is on it's way.
 

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Nothing prevents from creating a huge event only affecting European nations AND the US.

The Japanese already have an event that should take them up to the same level as the European nations (it will be tweaked though, as it isn't balanced yet).
 

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Any suggestions on how BIG the event should be? Big in terms of: How much added infra? How many provinces affected by the different thingies?
 

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Industrialization varied greatly between the various states. I think it's best to have individual industrialization events.