[HttT] Please bring ping-ponging back!

[Darkrenown]

Just MP, I think. BoH was the HRE Emp so they had oodles of it, while I had a max of about 20k.

 

[unmerged(128725)]

Just MP, I think. BoH was the HRE Emp so they had oodles of it, while I had a max of about 20k.

That is a very brutal effect. Something to really keep in mind.

 

[Beagá]

Ah, the Emperor and his invincible Clone Army I´d rush him before the 2nd Death Star is complete.

Seriously, the MP bonuses the Emperor has are a bit over the top.

 

[unmerged(10773)]

I must say i find the terrain modifiers a little excessive.
Attack a river province and you are at -5 (-4 terrain, -1 river),

Combined with the less than random rolls that leave you at 0 to 2 most of the time, you have an effective score of negatives very often.... seems like a killer.

1 or maybe 2 i can sorta see for modifier, but 4? No way.

As far as I can tell, you don't get this penality if you have more inf than cav in your army.
Also note the manual says, that armies with more inf than cav get's a bonus to tactics.

 

[ForVictory]

Shouldnt armies begin with the fire (arrows, bullets) phase instead of the shock as it is now?

 

[Grubnessul]

I'm quite sure they start with fire since 3.2

 

[Saoirse]

Is anyone getting ping pong issue? I had rebellion issue in IN and they did fair share of ping ponging across vast amount of my land and it wasnt funny - and it seem much worse this time as Japan - I had 800 man rebellion that just ping pong about 4 times before it ACTUALLY F***ING DIE - seriously i thought it was fixed in HTTT or I am missing something??

 

[George LeS]

Is anyone getting ping pong issue? I had rebellion issue in IN and they did fair share of ping ponging across vast amount of my land and it wasnt funny - and it seem much worse this time as Japan - I had 800 man rebellion that just ping pong about 4 times before it ACTUALLY F***ING DIE - seriously i thought it was fixed in HTTT or I am missing something??

It still happens a little, which IMO is OK, so long as it's not the norm, which it isn't.

What I'd really like to see is cases where the victor cannot immediately pursue, as a function of his losses & morale, modified by the leader's M. That was a very common occurrence in the era (& pretty much in all). But then, I really would like random delays to all orders.

I'm also not convinced the speed argument for Cav is right. True, it was overrated in IN, but now, 0? One of the functions of Cav was pursuit. This is now gone. Further, if one does accept the argument for = speeds for inf & cav, what about Arty? For at least the 2nd half of the period, it'd be about the same as for supply carts.

IMO, something like cav=1, inf=.9, art=.8 might be better across the board.

 

[TubercularOx]

I agree, what about artillery? If they still slow troops down then my inf/cav army is going to be waiting on the AI's inf/cav/art armies.

 

[Belegurt]

Is anyone getting ping pong issue? I had rebellion issue in IN and they did fair share of ping ponging across vast amount of my land and it wasnt funny - and it seem much worse this time as Japan - I had 800 man rebellion that just ping pong about 4 times before it ACTUALLY F***ING DIE - seriously i thought it was fixed in HTTT or I am missing something??

sometimes it happen, but i really love the combact right now... even if i still have to get used to it...

i, as holland (i own only the whole netherland territory+lubeck and canada) was able to kick french asses out of my country when they declared war on me

finally it's not a manpower matter but a battle matter... u win battles and u win the war... not u win the battles but then u finish manpower and france overrun

the funny part is that i didn't siege anything and they actually offered a white pace :O

 

[delra]

Is anyone getting ping pong issue? I had rebellion issue in IN and they did fair share of ping ponging across vast amount of my land and it wasnt funny - and it seem much worse this time as Japan - I had 800 man rebellion that just ping pong about 4 times before it ACTUALLY F***ING DIE - seriously i thought it was fixed in HTTT or I am missing something??

Only 4 bounces for us vanilla ping-pong veterans means it's fixed.

 

[Junuxx]

I've had several instances of ping-ponging rebel stacks for over a year in my Deccan game.

Then again, I believe that wouldn't have happened in smaller, European provinces where you're more likely to fight again in the same month.