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Hi all,

Playing as the Ottomans in latest patch of HTTT, and was quite surprised to get a mission to vassalise the Mamluks. Obviously in order to do that they had to be reduced in size a lot, so I've stripped them of all their Syrian provinces, as well as their coastal Egyptian provinces, inc. Alexandria. Hopefully I'll manage it next war.

But it struck me as odd: the Ottomans never did vassalise the Mamluks, did they? They just took advantage of Mamluk disorder, captured Cairo, and then the whole Mamluk edifice collapsed, and the Ottomans took over. Or is that not how it went?

Cheers,
Stigandr.
 

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Hi all,

Playing as the Ottomans in latest patch of HTTT, and was quite surprised to get a mission to vassalise the Mamluks. Obviously in order to do that they had to be reduced in size a lot, so I've stripped them of all their Syrian provinces, as well as their coastal Egyptian provinces, inc. Alexandria. Hopefully I'll manage it next war.

But it struck me as odd: the Ottomans never did vassalise the Mamluks, did they? They just took advantage of Mamluk disorder, captured Cairo, and then the whole Mamluk edifice collapsed, and the Ottomans took over. Or is that not how it went?

Cheers,
Stigandr.
Thats a ludicrously silly mission....
 

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Vassalising a fairly weak neighbour is one of several generic missions that are there to fill space when you aren't getting country-specific missions.
 

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Vassalising a fairly weak neighbour is one of several generic missions that are there to fill space when you aren't getting country-specific missions.

While that is true, the Ottomans have (had?) a specific mission to vasalise the Mamluks that rather lacked in reasonable triggers to make sure one could actually vasalise them.
IIRC, it was changed to a "force PU", but am not entirely sure.
 

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That's right, it's a unique Ottoman mission, that gives 10 prestige and 10 army tradition for vassalising Mamluks. I did it in the end. But it doesn't make much sense. I don't think the Ottomans really either vassalised or PU'd the Mamluks did they?
 

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I suppose PU would be the way to go, since annexing a nation in the size of Mamluks in one war would be rather OP.
And since the ottomans are in the same culture group as Mamluks they still get cores on everything when they inherit, so not that bad. And u get a powerful ally.
 

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While that is true, the Ottomans have (had?) a specific mission to vasalise the Mamluks that rather lacked in reasonable triggers to make sure one could actually vasalise them.
IIRC, it was changed to a "force PU", but am not entirely sure.
It was completely removed in the DW 5.1 patch.