As England I can convert all of Ireland in 10 years. The random culture conversions work great as always, but the new NF system seems a bit overpowered.
HTTT - National Focus Culture Conversion WAY Too Easy
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IN my Byz game it´s 80 years and couting for Beirut.
And i Know that i never post in this forum.
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Indeed. Of all the overpowered things in HTTT, settlement-policy conversion is the least of them all for sure. Its slow, penalties are heavy, and its overall not really worth it, except to convert a single rich province in the heart of India and hope it spreads naturally afterwards, maybe.
If you bothered using it in Ireland and got results worth the trouble, you either lucked out on the MTTT, or you have a Ubik-like definition of "overpowered". :rofl:
If you bothered using it in Ireland and got results worth the trouble, you either lucked out on the MTTT, or you have a Ubik-like definition of "overpowered". :rofl:
He's not the only one with a first post :wacko:
Sounds nice though. If its the national focus, than its understandable.
And Irishmen only like to pretend they're different
Sounds nice though. If its the national focus, than its understandable.
And Irishmen only like to pretend they're different
He's not the only one with a first post :wacko:
Sounds nice though. If its the national focus, than its understandable.
And Irishmen only like to pretend they're different
Jealous?
And I think there must be a hundred lurkers on this forum, but you'll never know till they make their first post.
+1 for an amazing feat of being registered since 2001 and making the first post now. Come back in 2017 please!
It is, but that just means that after 50 years there's a 50% chance it'll have happened. It technically could happen after 1 day or not have happened after 100 years.
I know, so how likely is it to convert all 4 Irish provinces in ten years?
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I have no idea, but the fact that it happened doesn't mean the MttH of the event isn't 50 years as you seemed to imply. Or if that wasn't what you meant I misunderstood you.
In my first game its not even 1450 and the Knights have managed to convert Rhodes while Genoa has converted Kaffa. It seems wierd that these small nations are able to settle enough people to actually overwhelm the native culture. Especially in the Knight's case, I can't imagine Maltese culture taking over Rhodes by settlement short of most of the population of Malta immigrating. Maybe there should be an extra requirement like you need to hold a certain number of provinces of your primary culture.
Not sure if it's overpowered but it does seem unrealistic for provinces with larger populations to me.
Hell, I'm 140 years and counting on my first try..been tempted to repeal many times. Nice to know that it actually works.
But it quite simply isn't 50 years at all.
Look at culturalspread.txt. It contains 2 events, both of which can fire when you have a settlement policy.
One has a MTTH of 50 years.
The other has a base MTTH or 250 years, but with a long list of modifiers, and national focus is one of them (0.5). Combined with other reasonable modifiers for high stability, being somewhat free subjects and having Church Attendance brings that MTTH down to 3000*0.5*0.9*0.9*0.9*0.8= 874 months, or some 72 years.
See how having those two events seriously reduces the average time to convert culture?
I think you may have to consider that a province's culture doesn't represent the ethnicity of the province, but what kind of culture the majority is more likely to accept. A people's adherence to a culture isn't static, and is likely to change over the years depending on what kind of policies the overlords have introduced.
None of that affects that the MttH for the settlement event is 50 years. I get what you mean about the actual average time being likely to be lower when both events are possible, since there are two seperate checks, but that doesn't affect the OP's example at all as it was in Ireland. There are no neighbouring provinces of english culture, so the cultural assimilation event wasn't a factor there at all.
Actually, I was just checking the event again to make sure of this and I noticed cultural assimilation also requires the revolt risk to be under 1%. Since the settlement policy modifier also adds 8% rr then it's unlikely both events will be possible in the same province even if you do have a neighbouring sam culture province, unless you have enough rr reduction to negate this.
Edit: this was in reply to Junuxx, took too long!
Actually, I was just checking the event again to make sure of this and I noticed cultural assimilation also requires the revolt risk to be under 1%. Since the settlement policy modifier also adds 8% rr then it's unlikely both events will be possible in the same province even if you do have a neighbouring sam culture province, unless you have enough rr reduction to negate this.
Edit: this was in reply to Junuxx, took too long!
It does affect Ireland after the first province there has been converted?
Hmm that does make it harder. But RR reduction is easier to come by with some provincial decisions now, and you could always just put a big army there to reduce RR.