HRE vassals shouldn't get upset when you annex vassals outside of the HRE

[delpiero1234]

So once the emperor has passed the 6th reform (Erbkaisertum) vassals in the HRE stop costing diplomatic relation slots. These vassla should not get the modifier "annexed vassal". It's -30 per annexed vassal. The modifier should only be applied to vassals outside of the HRE.
Otherwise it's impossible to play the diplo-vassalaztion game. My HRE vassals that I got after I revoked the privilegia should not get upset when I diplo-annex the Ukraine.

Thoughts?

Edit: The modifier also takes ages to go away. I have a diplomat (+30% better relations) and passed the snit-piracy act (+5%) and my prestige is at 100 and the modifier only improves by +2 per year. This is ridicioulos if you annex many vassal like I do. Most of my HRE vassals now have a -170 annexed vassal modifier..

Edit 2: When you annex vassals in the HRE you also receive the modifier annexed a member of the HRE. Two modifiers for annexing 1 vassal? Really?

 

[lordelenath]

Both modifiers (annexed vassal and annexed member of the HRE) go away 20 years after the latest annexation. You can either try to stagger annexations, keeping your vassals from raking up to many negative modifiers or you can annex as many as possible at a time, wait 20 years and repeat.

 

[delpiero1234]

Both modifiers (annexed vassal and annexed member of the HRE) go away 20 years after the latest annexation

That's good to know. Thanks.

However, the real issue is that HRE vassals should not core about vassal I annex outside of the HRE in my opinion. Also it should be enough penalty if vassals in the HRE receive the annexed member of the HRE modifier if the annexed vassal is from the HRE.

 

[lordelenath]

Why shouldn't they? They're all vassals after all.

 

[delpiero1234]

Why shouldn't they? They're all vassals after all.

Well they are only my vassals because I revoked the privilegia. So they are somehow different than vassals I gained through diplomacy or conquest. Also why should two negative opinion modifiers be applied to vassals inside the HRE? annexed vassal + annexed member of the HRE = -50 relation per annexed vassal with every member of the HRE is too harsh.