HRE unition

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RE=Roman Empire Okay so i started as Rashka and i became Byzantie a long story now i have a problem with the Muslims when i go to war with them all of the muslims join in and it is too hard to fight them so i cannot restore the HRE i have 300 years remaining in the game and i have to go to war with what is left of the HRE so any advice

 

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RE=Roman Empire Okay so i started as Rashka and i became Byzantie a long story now i have a problem with the Muslims when i go to war with them all of the muslims join in and it is too hard to fight them so i cannot restore the HRE i have 300 years remaining in the game and i have to go to war with what is left of the HRE so any advice

If you are using the holy war casus belli then all of those with the same religion of the person you are attacking may join the war. What i do is ether 1) use my chancellor fabricate a claim and attack with that casus belli or 2) attack and assault my holy war target quickly to take the holdings before the other Muslim nations join in get the war score to 100% really fast and force a peace deal. i hope i answered your questions if not i will do my best to answer better.

 

[XRW]

Can't you use the Roman Expansion CB it doesn't cause dogpile like the Holy war CB to my knowledge?
Attack revolters. Nations can't hop in to defend if they're at war with the target.
Stack all your retinues up on the border and assault assault assault. The other muslims can't do jack if you win the war before they can ship troops in.

 

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The muslims are to hard too fight cause 10 of them declare the war on me so i could easily fight the wars in Europe but the Muslims are the problem.

 

[tuareg109]

...That's what you get for being a Serbian noob!
But I wonder, can you play as Czar Dusan in this game?
Starting a new game right now, 1308 start!

 

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Dude my dynasty rules Byzantie that means Serbia rules the ERE and i guess no about the Tsar Dusan.

 

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When you declare holy war, member of your enemy's religion are likely to join in, to save their faith.

Also HRE = Holy Roman Empire, which was entirely seperate from the real Roman Empire.

 

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But the muslims are to hard to defeat

 

[tuareg109]

But the muslims are to hard to defeat

I agree somewhat, but there is a reason they took over the Balkans.

 

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Yeah it is hard but what is the name of Jerusalim in muslim or Turkish cause i need to obtain it to mend the church

 

[Ruwaard]

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Also HRE = Holy Roman Empire, which was entirely seperate from the real Roman Empire.

I don't agree completely here (especially entirely separate is much too strong). Unlike the Byzantine Empire, which developed directly or is a continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire (eastern half of the Roman Empire), the medieval Holy Roman Empire is a successor state of the Roman Empire in the Catholic West and it traces its legitimacy (in part) back to the Roman Empire, however it did not have the direct link the Byzantine Empire had.

 

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I have a problem i am missing 3 duchies to make RE but for some reason i can't get them and they are in my possesion all 3 of them i think or the possesion of my
Empire i succseded in mergeing the churches any advice.

 

[tuareg109]

Yeah it is hard but what is the name of Jerusalim in muslim or Turkish cause i need to obtain it to mend the church

Jerusalem in Arabic is "al-Quds" and in Turkish is "Kudus".

 

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No worries on that i found it earlier ago but i am asking for some reason i am missing Antioch,Sicily and Tunis duchies of that and they are inside of my realm but i do not own them any help?

 

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I don't agree completely here (especially entirely separate is much too strong). Unlike the Byzantine Empire, which developed directly or is a continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire (eastern half of the Roman Empire), the medieval Holy Roman Empire is a successor state of the Roman Empire in the Catholic West and it traces its legitimacy (in part) back to the Roman Empire, however it did not have the direct link the Byzantine Empire had.

Charlemagne was declared Holy Roman Emperor by the Pope, a position with absolutely zero power over the Roman Empire. The Pope really had no right to crown someone Emperor and claim that he was the new Roman Emperor the way he did. Just because *they* considered themselves successors that does not mean they *are* successors. It's like your local bishop saying "Yeah you know what, I think I'll crown you as Napoleon's successor" - he can do it if he likes, but the claim is bull.

 

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But about my problem of me having the duchies of those counts but game not registering them

 

[Ruwaard]

Charlemagne was declared Holy Roman Emperor by the Pope, a position with absolutely zero power over the Roman Empire. The Pope really had no right to crown someone Emperor and claim that he was the new Roman Emperor the way he did. Just because *they* considered themselves successors that does not mean they *are* successors. It's like your local bishop saying "Yeah you know what, I think I'll crown you as Napoleon's successor" - he can do it if he likes, but the claim is bull.

To nitpick Charlemagne was declared Roman Emperor/Emperor of the Romans, even Otto the Great was, Holy was only added later unofficially. Clearly we think differently about the claim, including the translatio imperii (especially regarding the former Western Roman Empire). However the Pope is not your local bishop, he is the head of Roman Catholicism, the Western branch of 'imperial Christianity' (itself a branch of Christianity), Orthodoxy is the Eastern branch. Furthermore the idea of a (Roman) Empire after Constantine the Great became connected with Christianity.

 

[leksu]

Charlemagne was declared Holy Roman Emperor by the Pope, a position with absolutely zero power over the Roman Empire. The Pope really had no right to crown someone Emperor and claim that he was the new Roman Emperor the way he did. Just because *they* considered themselves successors that does not mean they *are* successors. It's like your local bishop saying "Yeah you know what, I think I'll crown you as Napoleon's successor" - he can do it if he likes, but the claim is bull.

As Catholicism traditionally sees the Pope as the Vicar of Christ on earth and as he controlled the city of Rome, I think he was very much able to crown someone Roman Emperor.

 

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GUYS FOCUS ON MY PROBLEM!! Okay for some reason i cannot make RE but i have all the counties how do i gain the 3 duches i need

 

[Comradebot]

GUYS FOCUS ON MY PROBLEM!! Okay for some reason i cannot make RE but i have all the counties how do i gain the 3 duches i need

I'd assume you make/usurp the duchy titles.