How does Culture work when the HRE is formed? Is it a German Cultural Union like Germany? Or does the Emperor's Culture become the State Culture? That might be a pain for a non-German Emperor...
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I do not have the game but the same question.
I suppose it is the emperor´s culture because the HRE is not meant to be the same as Germany (there are French, Italians, Slavs).
Actually a pity. I do not want to save the HRE but form Germany
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However I wonder what happens if the emperor is not a member himself. This is posssbile.
I suppose it is the emperor´s culture because the HRE is not meant to be the same as Germany (there are French, Italians, Slavs).
Actually a pity. I do not want to save the HRE but form Germany
.However I wonder what happens if the emperor is not a member himself. This is posssbile.
Which choice is better depends on the situation. Cultural Union is not the only thing that should be taken into consideration.
Well the HRE is easier and expandable at will, while Germany is more difficult to achieve and limited to, well, Germany.
But Germany comes with 2 large boni: the cultural union thing, and the +1 base tax increase in every german province you own.
The HRE comes with a peculiar downside: you cannot form anything else in Europe afterwards. Still, one could form another nation as the HRE by going outside Europe: Persia, for instance, does not explicitely exclude the HRE as the forming nation
But Germany comes with 2 large boni: the cultural union thing, and the +1 base tax increase in every german province you own.
The HRE comes with a peculiar downside: you cannot form anything else in Europe afterwards. Still, one could form another nation as the HRE by going outside Europe: Persia, for instance, does not explicitely exclude the HRE as the forming nation
terrible idea, especially if the HRE is formed by Hungary/Bohemia/France/Savoy ect
leave the culture unchanged, there are events for main culture change already for the case it is much more dominant, no need to force upon the players a germanized HRE, especially as the lack of this is what many love about the HRE creation
I myself never formed Germany before, and if any culture would be forced on HRE then i guess I would stay away from it aswell.
and now there is the settlement policy, HRE minors can now be annexed, culture changed then released again, what would be the cause for a HRE that is not german in majority anymore to still pick german as main culture?
Uhm, no. It was only mainly german by surface but not population, at a time when there was not yet a well-defined german indentity other than "der Kaiser kommt!". It included northern Italy, Bohemia, Provence and Bourgogne. It was a medieval institution with religious and universal aspirations, not a fledging nation state.
On a side note, even German romantics had problems to define Germanness. In the end they settled for the language, which is basically the language Luther used to translate the Bible. So in game terms it should be impossible to invoke a german cultural union before 1500.
Germany ia the nationalist idea, who plays germany should get german as main culture
HRE is the idea for a centralized and unified nation, mostly like a feudal kingdom, with all claims included, ignoring it if population speaks other language than the King
HRE is the idea for a centralized and unified nation, mostly like a feudal kingdom, with all claims included, ignoring it if population speaks other language than the King
The HRE is far more powerful than Germany alone. If you unify the HRE of 1399 with Austria or Brandenburg you will get lombard as accepted, so the rich north Italy will join in force. Plus the ridiculously rich Netherlands, which is even german. That base tasx +1 is worth nothing except for tech purposes, which we all know are irrelevant except for one: land tech, and that you will be more than able to keep up.
If you dismember France and manage to join the small fiefs in the HRE, you will have 70% of the blue juggernaut (with cores in them) at you service, much faster. If you are trying to form Germany it will take much longer because you will have to annex many more OPM, wait for BB to lower, wait for the cores etc
If you dismember France and manage to join the small fiefs in the HRE, you will have 70% of the blue juggernaut (with cores in them) at you service, much faster. If you are trying to form Germany it will take much longer because you will have to annex many more OPM, wait for BB to lower, wait for the cores etc
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