How you play? (with Ironman or without Ironman)

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I don't play in Ironman but I don't go back and reload a save to avoid the consequences either.
 

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Always non-ironman, I find it far too funny to see the world diverge from real history and thinking about what that means to how the people see the world in their reality. I mean, there is nothing better than the Sultanate of Epirus, right? If there where Ironman without lucky nations, I would immediately switch to that, though. Or maybe not, damned saving times.
 

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Never ironman. Don't see the point. Constant autosaving is annoying. Feeble attempt at reducing savescumming when you can do it in ironman too.
 

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Ironman only.

Ironman only. What's the point otherwise?

Only then can you look at your empires, achievements and victories with pride, otherwise you know you cheated.

If I can't be arsed to think thru the ramifications of a decision and it blows up in my face, then I deserve to lose, or waste 30 years rectifying mistakes. Isn't part of the fun being in jepoardy and digging yourself out of it? Is it fun to coast to victory all the time?

Where's the fun in going back to earlier saves, and avoiding all the errors? You're just cheating yourself.

IRONMAN!

I concur wholeheartedly.
 

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Ironman only. What's the point otherwise?

Only then can you look at your empires, achievements and victories with pride, otherwise you know you cheated.

If I can't be arsed to think thru the ramifications of a decision and it blows up in my face, then I deserve to lose, or waste 30 years rectifying mistakes. Isn't part of the fun being in jepoardy and digging yourself out of it? Is it fun to coast to victory all the time?

Where's the fun in going back to earlier saves, and avoiding all the errors? You're just cheating yourself.

IRONMAN!

This attitude of "If you don't play Ironman, then by definition you cheat" confuses me. I am confused.
 

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This attitude of "If you don't play Ironman, then by definition you cheat" confuses me. I am confused.

It ignores previous points made, labels other posters, and is rife with fallacies. Hopefully that elucidates what kind of post it is. No need for confusion, or to take it as a legitimate statement ;).
 

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I play Ironman by default.

I thought this was about achievements or something, until a few hours ago, when I was wondering whether the 1.8 beta patch gives achievements as well. Then I realized I am going to play with that beta patch no matter what. I just want Ironman because I wanted to play at the most "default" environment for at least my first few games...
 

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Wars are won by Men of Iron, not cheated gold. I must guard my own virtues...

Since ironman was introduced for CK2 and EU4 I've only played it like that, minus conversion games from CK2, but then that one had to be ironman as well

Surely there are some statistics/ old polls about this?? (no time to look now, maybe later)
 

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Non-Ironman only, because of mods mostly. Saves once a year and possibility to turn off these disgusting lucky nations are good bonuses, though
 

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Surely there are some statistics/ old polls about this?? (no time to look now, maybe later)
The easiest achievement in the game is to get a Royal Marriage, and according to Steam 19,8% of EU4 players have it. Given that usually around 80% of people that have bought a game have played it, based on looking at various games' achievement statistics, I would say that one in three EU4 players do Ironman.
 

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I'd say 50/50 for me. Right now I'm testing out the achievement hunt thingy so naturally I'm on ironman for the time being.
 

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Only ironman, i dont really care about achievements, it prevents me from cheating.. But oh boy i wish i could turn off lucky nations, please paradox!