How useful is UK's "Enforce the naval treaties" focus? Does the AI actually tend to allow exploiting it?

[llib]

Hi.
I wonder in the Global Defense branch of the tree, does "enforce the naval treaties" produce some interesting wargoals against AI? From what I have seen AI tends to not focus on navy that much, and treaties will relatively soon expire anyway...

 

[Spelaren]

Delete your UK navy and see what happens, it's fun! You can conquer America in 1936.

 

[GSP Jr]

UK and France both can justify and DoW the USA for Treaty violations.

If that is at all realistic I'll leave to you to decide.

 

[DicRoNero]

@Spelaren
I've always thought Naval Treaties are merely a dummy plug to allow insertion of a yummy line into the DLC advertisment page, good to see someone actually finding a way to harness it.

(I've had about equal dissapoitment on discovering that Portugal refusing naval blockade is... a war support modifier.)

 

[xtfoster]

Delete your UK navy and see what happens, it's fun! You can conquer America in 1936.

Don't even have to do that. I usually just convert all of my early (interwar) Heavy Cruisers to Light Cruisers...that drops you enough that the USA is above the threshold.

EDIT: Although that does take about a year, so your way would be quicker.

 

[llib]

Delete your UK navy and see what happens, it's fun! You can conquer America in 1936.

That does not appear to represent either spirit or letter of those treaties...
I meant more like Italy/Germany/Japan going off rails with ship designs...

 

[squid_hills]

The focus is pretty much only useful for triggering an early game war against the US as a UK player. Japan abandons the treaties first thing and Italy usually follows suit not long after. While playing as Italy, I've gotten the warnings about my navy size from an AI UK, but I usually ignore them, because the only time my navy gets close to or bigger than Britain's is when the UK goes Monarchist and then Canada gets lucky naval bombing a few battleships (Remember, kids: the treaties are only invalidated when 2 majors go to war with each other... majors attacking minors won't sink the treaties). As a player, I never build anything bigger than a light cruiser, so when the UK starts bugging me about my navy size it means they've had a very bad day trying to restore the Empire.

 

[MobiusTwo]

UK and France both can justify and DoW the USA for Treaty violations.

If that is at all realistic I'll leave to you to decide.

Wait, France can exploit the Treaty too? I've conquered the US at the UK for Treaty violations, but I didn't know France could do the same. I guess I figured that the UK was the one "in charge" of enforcing the Treaty.

 

[GSP Jr]

Wait, France can exploit the Treaty too? I've conquered the US at the UK for Treaty violations, but I didn't know France could do the same. I guess I figured that the UK was the one "in charge" of enforcing the Treaty.

I've been playing the US and had France DoW me, don't recall why the UK did not in that game.
Strange, crazy things can happen when you uncheck "Historical" and use rules to force alternate paths, lol.

 

[kettyo]

I've seen both the USA and France declaring on fascist Britain almost at the same time quite early, probably for this same reason.