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I recently vassalised the holy orders, which was incredibly easy (just give them a duchy each and they'll swear fealty).

Now I wonder how the same could be done with the regular mercenary companies. Somehow, when I select their leaders, I cannot interact with them at all, aka I can't give them land. Which is weird, since I could select any courtier in the world (even non-vassals) and heap lands upon them without anybody stopping me.
 

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its possible but they'd have to acquire land by themselves, through invasions
In this picture if I was the king of denmark and catholic i could offer vassalization for example.
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That's the company of st george btw
 

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They can get land through invasions. Such as the ones you face when you don't pay them and they decide to attack you for your titles. You can then somehow rise over their tier, be their de jure liege and eventually offer vassalization.
 

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They can get land through invasions. Such as the ones you face when you don't pay them and they decide to attack you for your titles. You can then somehow rise over their tier, be their de jure liege and eventually offer vassalization.

I'm not sure what I'd have to do to run out of money with an income of 3000+. Weird though that Paradox made it so hard to vassalise them when you can vassalise holy orders so easily.
 

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The Byzantines, Seljuks and Fatimids each have a vassal mercenary company. Though, since they're already vassalised there's no need to do anything. Then again, you could give them land and a king level title, then murder the captain and receive all his titles, including the merc company.
 

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The Byzantines, Seljuks and Fatimids each have a vassal mercenary company. Though, since they're already vassalised there's no need to do anything. Then again, you could give them land and a king level title, then murder the captain and receive all his titles, including the merc company.

That takes up a duchy title, meaning you can only have one other before you get an opinion penalty.
 

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You don't need to give the Holy Orders a duchy. Giving them a barony and being the same culture will do fine as long as you're the de jure ruler of that barony.

However, they're unlikely to be the same culture... Better to give them a duchy, because landed titles take precedence over unlanded titles and become their primary title, giving them that duchy's succession type. Then you can kill their grandmasters until they get a randomly generated guy who will probably have the area's culture and religion. Then you can offer vassalization. (And if you want, kill them a bunch more, because once you are their liege their titles will all go to you and you can make a dynasty member the Grandmaster.)