How to use personal unions
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i always get the worst luck i always have a regency right after i lose one in my austria game i forced pu then a month after my king died and i lost it and had an 8 year regency
Well stop trolling Chrionicler...
You get it when your union ends, without inhertance, but if you got regency, you will lose it propably... unless the regency will be for short time.
No, well, I have forced PUs, then my monarch died just after (same month even), my luck, and I never got that CB.
Ok so I need keep a bigger army, positive relations and higher prestige. And even after that BB, diplo skill can help but it's still down to luck? Thanks all for the advice.
No, then I deleted that save and started a new game. Inheriting strategy is just frustrating to me as it depends on luck (to some extend) and it's somewhat gamey. Though it makes sense in the HRE because how hard it is to expand within the empire + you get cores.
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Well maybe it was because the game did not considered this union for some reason... it is possible that if you get union and in the same month your monarch dies, you don't get the CB... so it is a glitch or something...
Most people say that you need a high diplo king, 100 relations and time to inherit...
I disagree, while those may be modifiers..this just happened to me:
I think it's mostly luck.
All of those PUs had a "somewhat trustworthy" trust rating. My old king was diplo 6 and my new king is only diplo 4.
Of those PUs: Pskov is my second newest (1433) with having 133 relations. I PU'd Smolensk in 1427 and I had 180 relations at the time of inheritance. I PU'd Tver in 1406 and had 200 relations. Now Polotsk is an interesting story. I forced PU'd them the year before my king died. I had only sent enough gifts to them to get their relations up to 18, just enough to continue the PU. Or so I thought....
I disagree, while those may be modifiers..this just happened to me:
I think it's mostly luck.
All of those PUs had a "somewhat trustworthy" trust rating. My old king was diplo 6 and my new king is only diplo 4.
Of those PUs: Pskov is my second newest (1433) with having 133 relations. I PU'd Smolensk in 1427 and I had 180 relations at the time of inheritance. I PU'd Tver in 1406 and had 200 relations. Now Polotsk is an interesting story. I forced PU'd them the year before my king died. I had only sent enough gifts to them to get their relations up to 18, just enough to continue the PU. Or so I thought....
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Most people say that you need a high diplo king, 100 relations and time to inherit...
I disagree, while those may be modifiers..this just happened to me:
I think it's mostly luck.
All of those PUs had a "somewhat trustworthy" trust rating. My old king was diplo 6 and my new king is only diplo 4.
Of those PUs: Pskov is my second newest (1433) with having 133 relations. I PU'd Smolensk in 1427 and I had 180 relations at the time of inheritance. I PU'd Tver in 1406 and had 200 relations. Now Polotsk is an interesting story. I forced PU'd them the year before my king died. I had only sent enough gifts to them to get their relations up to 18, just enough to continue the PU. Or so I thought....
Well, you had positive relations with all of them, and that +82 prestige probably helped (you need to be higher than them - you didn't mention the others, but most countries under a PU aren't going to be that high, and forcing Polotsk that recently, they're probably negative).... and no, there is no time requirement. I've had cases where I inherited with the very next king after getting a PU.
He also had extremely low infamy and high legitimacy. In my experience these matter more than most other factors. Also, a decent sized SoI will make up, at least somewhat, for a low dip heir although in my experience it is only 3 dip heirs that have much trouble inheriting with no infamy and high prestige and legitimacy anyway.
Also, you can inherit while you are at war, you cannot inherit a nation that is at war.
Well it worked. Although when my first king died the PU just continued when my next king died I inherited Bavaria *and* Brandenburg. I had zero infamy and prestige in the 90's. So worked out well. Doubled my nations size and strenght.
If you were not an elector, you should be one of those too now, because you should have inherited Brandenburg's vote.