THis was because Portugal had you as a rival, not because you had Portugal as a rival.
How to use personal unions as a tactic
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THis was because Portugal had you as a rival, not because you had Portugal as a rival.
Unless I'm just blind, which I tend to be, you did not list them specifically.
right, i misread your post then. I'm sorry.
I thought you said you can join a succesion war someone else contested and steal PU for yourself if you took warscore when the warleader didn't.
Guess i really think too much
Right now I am playing Hungary, me and Austria are ruled by the Habsburgs, even though we do not have a marriage. They have regency, their heir is a ten year old Habsburg with a strong claim. Is there anyway I can enforce personal union here?
EDIT: For no reason, they suddenly unrivalled me, so I immediately married them. How can I enforce a personal union now as opposed to when they rivalled me and we didn't have a marriage?
EDIT: For no reason, they suddenly unrivalled me, so I immediately married them. How can I enforce a personal union now as opposed to when they rivalled me and we didn't have a marriage?
Only independent countries can field candidates for the elective throne AFAIK, so you can work your way through Europe's sovereign dynasties. For instance, the Habsburgs will be quick to install their candidate, but then once you have PU'd all Habsburg countries, you won't have any more foreign Habsburg candidates to worry about.
I would avoid taking on any extra PUs though until you have inherited Lithuania, because they will disable the 'Form Commonwealth' decision.
You can form a bunch of different countries while retaining the elective monarchy. Prussia is a popular choice.
RM castile or aragon. get a tastrama.
I just forced union on Naples (owns all of italy and tunis), Castile (spain minus 1 province), Portugal, and Austria (with netherlands and half of hre) as Byzantium.
So yeah, it takes a heavy amount of luck. And it can become even harder to maintain and integrate... Other than aiming for already prolific dynasties (wittlesbach is another choice) its mostly luck.
I just forced union on Naples (owns all of italy and tunis), Castile (spain minus 1 province), Portugal, and Austria (with netherlands and half of hre) as Byzantium.
So yeah, it takes a heavy amount of luck. And it can become even harder to maintain and integrate... Other than aiming for already prolific dynasties (wittlesbach is another choice) its mostly luck.
if austria still has no heir (they have no heir in 1444 start) you need a RM and more prestige then them, and then you can claim their throne. You can start a war to force a PU. But you got to defeat austria and their allies then. Which might be hard.
err, the message you quote lists them
You can enable all of the popups with a pause,and later on disable the popup on the types you don't like (right corner of the popup is a menu to choose this)
You 'd be amazed how fast you will rely on those popups for micromanaging.
Pop up for "army arrived at destination", popup for "diplomat is free again", popup for "province is converted" (means your missionary is free again and so on and so forth.
You are right, i didn't list them all in guide, i recommend to turn them all on and see what you like. Disable rest. Don't forget to set interesting countries for all your PU targets.
right, i misread your post then. I'm sorry.
I thought you said you can join a succesion war someone else contested and steal PU for yourself if you took warscore when the warleader didn't.
Guess i really think too much
If I understand that correctly, it means that if my rival is going to get a PU, I can join a succession war against him to get the PU myself if I win the war. Is that right?
well, i was saying that is impossible. I hope. AFAIK only the warleader can force a PU. Never tried though
well, i was saying that is impossible. I hope. AFAIK only the warleader can force a PU. Never tried though
I read again your thread about PU and isn't it what option E is?
sort of.
I'll make clear what i mean. I thought someone said if you join an OFFENSIVE (as in, join the war on the attacker side) succession war with *another* country as warleader, that you could force PU for yourself if you occupy everything.
I hope that isn't the case.
Example.
Spain declares on Savoy when they get PU over Naples. Spain can't reach Naples, cause their fleet is sunk. Spain can't reach savoy, cause France won't give access.
Lets say Tuscany manages to occupy Savoy and Naples completely... To who goes Naples then? Naples can't peace out and take the PU hen, can they? I bet it will still go to Spain.
Their ally Tuscany, who joined in with spain, occupies
I got a lot of them on (wish the "army arrived at destination" was divided between troops and navy). There's a crap ton of the pop ups to choose from, yet few are missing... Your long guide taught me a couple of tricks and things I should focus on, but it is not very well structured.err, the message you quote lists them
You can enable all of the popups with a pause,and later on disable the popup on the types you don't like (right corner of the popup is a menu to choose this)
You 'd be amazed how fast you will rely on those popups for micromanaging.
Pop up for "army arrived at destination", popup for "diplomat is free again", popup for "province is converted" (means your missionary is free again and so on and so forth.
You are right, i didn't list them all in guide, i recommend to turn them all on and see what you like. Disable rest. Don't forget to set interesting countries for all your PU targets.
ok, i added chapters and other formatting to the text. I know it can still be improved, but there is a start.
It's probably easier as an elective monarchy to get PUs, but like other monarchies it's not guaranteed.
My current game is an elective Prussia (Poland => Commonwealth => Prussia), and so far I only had one opportunity to gain a major PU over Sweden (which basically owned all of Scandinavia + part of Novgorod).
Basically, there are always two candidates for your heir : 1) an above average ruler from your current dynasty but with low legitimacy; 2) an average ruler from another dynasty but with high legitimacy.
If the other dynasty is a major dynasty (France, Austria, Spain, England, Russia, etc), just accept the shift and watch the disputed succession each year to see if you can claim their throne.
If the other dynasty is a minor dynasty (for some reason, HRE minors really like to promote their heirs), then grab the above average ruler from your current dynasty and try to spread it out like you would do in a standard monarchy.
IMHO, the biggest advantage of elective monarchies is that they never get regencies. Never.
An easy but important rule to keep in mind is that you need 4 RM at least to allow for a specific event to spawn an heir of your dynasty in a nation that has no heir but a RM with you. This seems to be the most reliable way to spread your dynasty. The corrolary is that the more diplo slot you have, the better (at least 4 RM but if you have 6, then that's as many nations to spread your dynasty in), and that theocracies or republics that can't RM should be avoided as allies, especially early on when you just have 4 diplo slots.
What I wouldn't give to see the teaser for the next season of Game of Thrones
. I meant that the wall of text could use some rephrasing. Don't get discouraged though!
If someone could please help me post screenshots, my last two runs are an a living testament to PU's.
EDIT: Let's try this img http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309792095
As Austria in 1.7 I pulled off a full world conquest, last nation standing except for CN's. I had PU's during the game over: England, Aragon, Naples, Bohemia, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Burgundy, Portugal, Muscovy. That's 10, and the first 8 were in by 1470
As Habsburg Byzantium, I have PU over France, PLC, and Austria. Also have a Habsburg in Spain, and had a Habsburg in Aragon and Hungary, but those 2 were vassals.
Also, as austria, i INHERITED the every nation except for ENG, POR and MUS. All of this in Ironman. But it does take some patience with the RNG, I remember eyeing a 50yr old guy about to die heirless pop up a child out of nowhere to greatly annoy me, but something funny here: in a certain run, a country tends to have disputed sucession more than once. so if Castile has sucession problems by 1480, chances are even if they solve them they will arise again twice in the XVI century.
EDIT: Let's try this img http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309792095
As Austria in 1.7 I pulled off a full world conquest, last nation standing except for CN's. I had PU's during the game over: England, Aragon, Naples, Bohemia, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Burgundy, Portugal, Muscovy. That's 10, and the first 8 were in by 1470
As Habsburg Byzantium, I have PU over France, PLC, and Austria. Also have a Habsburg in Spain, and had a Habsburg in Aragon and Hungary, but those 2 were vassals.
Also, as austria, i INHERITED the every nation except for ENG, POR and MUS. All of this in Ironman. But it does take some patience with the RNG, I remember eyeing a 50yr old guy about to die heirless pop up a child out of nowhere to greatly annoy me, but something funny here: in a certain run, a country tends to have disputed sucession more than once. so if Castile has sucession problems by 1480, chances are even if they solve them they will arise again twice in the XVI century.
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What I wouldn't give to see the teaser for the next season of Game of Thrones
pff read the short version on the wiki then. I can't help it that the guide is wall of text... The whole mechanic is so complex
Trust me, i edited the text a LOT.