How to trigger French Revolution?

[Travis_Bickle]

Hi there,

I'm in 1728 and I'm trying to trigger the French revolution. I got my stability way down, am the most powerful nation in Europe with the biggest army, but it won't seem to fire? Internal conflicts will, but not the French revolution. "The Revolution" isn't present anywhere yet, but I am in the Age of Revolutions.

Any advice or input would be most appreciated.

 

[Big Bad France]

The revolution will eventually spawn somewhere, most likely in France, but not necessarily. Then it will spread similar to how religious centers spread, only faster. I believe (not 100% on this, only gone through it once) that once you have the revolution in 20% of your provinces, you can trigger the disaster. This will give you the option of either embracing the revolution or crushing it, and you will get several events with lots of rebels until the disaster is over.

 

[Travis_Bickle]

The revolution will eventually spawn somewhere, most likely in France, but not necessarily. Then it will spread similar to how religious centers spread, only faster. I believe (not 100% on this, only gone through it once) that once you have the revolution in 20% of your provinces, you can trigger the disaster. This will give you the option of either embracing the revolution or crushing it, and you will get several events with lots of rebels until the disaster is over.

iirc there is a specific event for France that can fire:

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/French_Revolution

I've done my best to get it to start ticking but it won't.

 

[EarlKonrad]

iirc there is a specific event for France that can fire:

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/French_Revolution

I've done my best to get it to start ticking but it won't.

The French Revolution overrides the generic Revolution disaster.

Basically, you have to wait for a Center of Revolution to spawn (its spawn place is random but it has a crapton of weights built in so you can kind of rig it to spawn in your lands; you want a province with high dev, university and to have as much absolutism as humanly possible). Once it spawns, the center will convert 3 provinces at a time (the conversion time is 33 days no matter what) and it prioritizes high dev provinces and provinces belonging to the country where the center spawned.

Once 20% of your nation has embraced the Revolutionary ideals (20% of your total dev but I'm not sure if LA counts or not. I think it does) the Revolution disaster will appear on the possible disasters tab. You COULD wait till 100% of your nation flips, which instantly triggers the disaster, but this would be ungodly slow.

Take a look at the disaster conditions. You want -1 stab, negative prestige, at least 25 loans (I think you get a bonus for having 50). All of this combined will start the monthly tick and make it progress reasonably fast.

My advice is to save ADM and MIL so that once the disaster fires you can instantly buy back stab to +3, thus ending the disaster and the MIL is to increase your rep tradition out of the gate so you will gain some zeal right away. You may also want to save 100 years worth of reform progress because the amount of reform progress you have to spend once you become a Rev. Republic is silly stupid.

The disaster itself is a piece of cake to deal with if you are prepared. When I tested out the French Rev. I kept the disaster going longer than necessary to see what events would fire. I got all the wait to Robespierre losing his head and thought the events weren't worth the wait and having to endure the massive unrest associated with the disaster but your mileage may vary.

Lastly, be warned that Revolutionary governments lose the Imperialism CB, which is massive.

P.S: Center of Rev. Will spawn sometime after the last Age comes online. Usually 20 or so years after the Age has started.

 

[Travis_Bickle]

The French Revolution overrides the generic Revolution disaster.

Basically, you have to wait for a Center of Revolution to spawn (its spawn place is random but it has a crapton of weights built in so you can kind of rig it to spawn in your lands; you want a province with high dev, university and to have as much absolutism as humanly possible). Once it spawns, the center will convert 3 provinces at a time (the conversion time is 33 days no matter what) and it prioritizes high dev provinces and provinces belonging to the country where the center spawned.

Once 20% of your nation has embraced the Revolutionary ideals (20% of your total dev but I'm not sure if LA counts or not. I think it does) the Revolution disaster will appear on the possible disasters tab. You COULD wait till 100% of your nation flips, which instantly triggers the disaster, but this would be ungodly slow.

Take a look at the disaster conditions. You want -1 stab, negative prestige, at least 25 loans (I think you get a bonus for having 50). All of this combined will start the monthly tick and make it progress reasonably fast.

My advice is to save ADM and MIL so that once the disaster fires you can instantly buy back stab to +3, thus ending the disaster and the MIL is to increase your rep tradition out of the gate so you will gain some zeal right away. You may also want to save 100 years worth of reform progress because the amount of reform progress you have to spend once you become a Rev. Republic is silly stupid.

The disaster itself is a piece of cake to deal with if you are prepared. When I tested out the French Rev. I kept the disaster going longer than necessary to see what events would fire. I got all the wait to Robespierre losing his head and thought the events weren't worth the wait and having to endure the massive unrest associated with the disaster but your mileage may vary.

Lastly, be warned that Revolutionary governments lose the Imperialism CB, which is massive.

P.S: Center of Rev. Will spawn sometime after the last Age comes online. Usually 20 or so years after the Age has started.

This makes sense. I'm on -1 stab now but just getting "Internal Conflicts". I guess I have to wait until it gets to 20% of my country? It started in the Commonwealth and I border them so I guess I can get it.

Also do you recommend the Imperialism CB over the Revolution CB? I thought the Revolutionary CB was quite strong?

 

[Big Bad France]

The revolution cb is better, but you can only use it against countries that haven't gone revolutionary. If you are after achievements, France has one for spreading the revolution. If you are after a world conquest, it may be better to crush the revolution and stick with the imperialism cb.

 

[EarlKonrad]

This makes sense. I'm on -1 stab now but just getting "Internal Conflicts". I guess I have to wait until it gets to 20% of my country? It started in the Commonwealth and I border them so I guess I can get it.

Also do you recommend the Imperialism CB over the Revolution CB? I thought the Revolutionary CB was quite strong?

Yeah Internal Conflict, Aspiration for Liberty and Revolution all have very similar conditions to fire, that's one of the reasons why you want to maximize your monthly tick for your desired event. And yes, you do have to wait.

Regarding the CBs, Spread the Revolution is really good as it is basically Imperialism but better and it allows you to get Monarch Power if you force the war leader to become Revolutionary. However, I'd say that ultimately Imperialism is better because it is always available, and I do mean always.

 

[Big Bad France]

Really, if you are playing France, I suggest going revolutionary regardless of goals if you haven't done it before. You get unique events, Napoleon, who is a god-tier general and ruler, and flavor for days. It's a lot of fun just stomping everyone and taking a sizable chunk of a continent every war.

 

[Travis_Bickle]

Yeah Internal Conflict, Aspiration for Liberty and Revolution all have very similar conditions to fire, that's one of the reasons why you want to maximize your monthly tick for your desired event. And yes, you do have to wait.

Regarding the CBs, Spread the Revolution is really good as it is basically Imperialism but better and it allows you to get Monarch Power if you force the war leader to become Revolutionary. However, I'd say that ultimately Imperialism is better because it is always available, and I do mean always.

Really, if you are playing France, I suggest going revolutionary regardless of goals if you haven't done it before. You get unique events, Napoleon, who is a god-tier general and ruler, and flavor for days. It's a lot of fun just stomping everyone and taking a sizable chunk of a continent every war.

Seems that the Commonwealth crushed the Revolution (annoying as I was 1 year off of our truce ending and me invading them). Is there a chance that Revolution will spawn elsewhere still?

Thanks for your help.

 

[Eruth]

iirc there is a specific event for France that can fire:

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/French_Revolution

I've done my best to get it to start ticking but it won't.

The wiki page for revolutions hasn't been updated for the massive new changes to revolutions in 1.3, BTW. It's still talking about the 1.28 version

 

[Eruth]

Seems that the Commonwealth crushed the Revolution (annoying as I was 1 year off of our truce ending and me invading them). Is there a chance that Revolution will spawn elsewhere still?

Thanks for your help.

Google the 1.3 revolutions dev diary, or go to the dev diaries page in the wiki and control+f search "revolution". It explains how it all works.

 

[Travis_Bickle]

Google the 1.3 revolutions dev diary, or go to the dev diaries page in the wiki and control+f search "revolution". It explains how it all works.

Yes I have, thank you. Seems in my save the Revolution never really kicked off.

I was the biggest power in Europe, and my Absolutism was 90 so I must have had a chance to be the centre of revolution but didn't get it. Now it died off.

Oh well, hopefully next time.