Oh yeah, tracking that. It's pure speculation based off some of the inflation that other chassis have been blessed with.
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Oh yeah, tracking that. It's pure speculation based off some of the inflation that other chassis have been blessed with.
There are Mechs with 0 Support Hardpoints, we dont know if the Dragon will be one of them
Which makes it pretty similar to 3025 tabletop. I never had much problem with internal space until XL engines, endosteel and ferroarmor came along.
Using MWO as template for hardpoints (and using Smurfy for theory crafting), and also observing that the CT has 4 open crit slots, I'm thinking that maybe a 1LLaser, 1 MLaser, and 2 SRM6 build might be ok. It should leave roughly 6~5 tons free (depending on 1 or 2 tons ammo for SRMs) for heat sinks as well. I could also see reducing one launcher to an SRM4 for cooling and some extra tonnage for armor.
Basically turn it into a fast, heavy brawler.
Basically turn it into a fast, heavy brawler.
Like the title of this thread!
I haven't played the Beta, but from watching the streams won't this also get an initiative penalty over a 55 ton mech as well as heavier jump jets?
Hopefully it gets 3-4 support hardpoints; if the Dragon can breath fire that might differentiate it.
I haven't played the Beta, but from watching the streams won't this also get an initiative penalty over a 55 ton mech as well as heavier jump jets?
Hopefully it gets 3-4 support hardpoints; if the Dragon can breath fire that might differentiate it.
Yeah, the Dragon is a Heavy mech, so it moves on initiative #2 with the other heavies. I think it also has heavier Jump Jets too, but i'm not sure.
The Cicada is also in a similar boat. Moves like a light mech (and has a light mech loadout to boot), but goes with the mediums on initiative #3.
Dragon Jump Jets are 1t and there are some Mechs like the Centurion that have a higher Initiative then their peers. The Dragon could very well be one of them.
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Huh? No mechs have a higher initiative innately. It's strictly by weight class. Modified by the tactics 8 skill and a temporary boost from the vigilance morale ability
If they give the DRG-1N a bunch of support mounts for flamethrowers then this will be the greatest BattleTech ever conceived and the new official canon and I will fight anyone who doesn't agree.
4 CT slots? This changes things
Dual SRM-6s in the nose, a PPC or LL in the RT, and as much armour as can fit might make for a nice brawler - especially if one finds one of them +melee damage mods
Thank you all for your input! I especially liked the idea of putting a flamer or two in the nose if HBS decides to put a couple of support hardpoints there; a fire-breathing Dragon would be just too cool not to do
Gonna disagree with this. As a beneficiary of both the LRM and Autocannon buffs, the DRG-1N is an absolute beast of a heavy cavalry unit. It's one of the few mechs I'm actually considering running purely stock.
It works stock, certainly and is better than the TT version.
But 'beast' seems a bit of a stretch. It's rather inline with its 55 ton counterparts, who have an advantage at the cavalry role (JJs), and better heat management.
That's certainly a fair opinion; seeing how hard I find it to make something of the Dragon, I might have to run mine stock too if I get any.
However I don't really see it as any better than a slightly modified SHD-2H (strip the SRM-2 and ammo, upgrade the LRM-5 to a LRM-10). That makes a 'Mech with just half a ton less armour than the Dragon, one less ML, but that acts one initiative phase before the Dragon.
No stock 55 tonner can sustain the weight of fire that the Dragon puts out at range due either to weapon configuration or heat management issues, nor do they have the ammo reserves to stay in combat as long as the Dragon can, while taking lower percentage shots without worrying about running dry.
And frankly, unless you plan on DFAing someone, JumpJets arent remotely what they used to be.
See above.
Mech Upkeep is 6,000 Cbills per Mech in a Mech Bay. Empty Mech Bays and Mechs in Storage have no Mech Upkeep charge.
Yep, also tracking that. Hence the "if" qualifier when I proposed adding support weapons, "if" being a conditional preposition in the English language.
Again, pure speculation - although I will say that other mechs with limited hardpoints, such as the Vindicator, have been blessed with the Stick of Inflation, often to the tune of a couple support hardpoints or more. We'll see how it shakes out in a couple weeks.
Eh? Dragon is worse at heat management in every way, unless you're comparing to something terrible like a Griffin. The damage curve between a stock Shadowhawk and dragon is very small (and easily adjusted).
Ammo reserves I'll give you. I'm not sure it matters, but that's really the only notable advantage.
A Dragon puts out 85 points of damage at mid to long range, and can sustain it indefinitely until it runs out of ammunition in 24 turns.
A Griffin puts out 90 points of damage at mid to long range, and can sustain it for two turns before taking internal damage, at which point it must fall back on its LRM10 only.
A Wolverine puts out 45 points of damage at mid to long range, and can sustain it indefinitely until it runs out of ammunition in 15 turns.
A Shadow Hawk puts out 65 points of damage at mid to long range, and can sustain it indefinitely until it runs out of ammunition in 15 turns.
Heat management isn't the only variable in this equation.
In Table Top or MegaMek? Hulldown on a ridge or Charging on weaker targets.
This game, not sure, just using it in stock config for some playthroughs as Heavy Support (so not charging) depleting the AC/5 and LRM/10 at long-range then moving in.
This game, not sure, just using it in stock config for some playthroughs as Heavy Support (so not charging) depleting the AC/5 and LRM/10 at long-range then moving in.