As they use some manpower, the only thing you get back when deleting them is manpower.
How to remove obsolete equipment from inventory?
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As they use some manpower, the only thing you get back when deleting them is manpower.
It would have been nice if you're able to convert equipment to marks or variants for a small cost. It wouldn't be unheard of to take Biplane Fighter and turn it into Biplane Fighter With Modifications...or stripping an obsolete tank and turning it into tracked AA or an SPG or TD - again, you can do that via tech reasearch but...you still got piles of obsolete stuff hanging around.
It can be frustrating when you have 1,500 Great War tanks sitting around, ready for conversion into something or other, that you 'wasted' because otherwise the the factories would sit idle, the incoming resources wasted. Though there is a point I suppose to selling them off to the Chinese or the Spanish.
It can be frustrating when you have 1,500 Great War tanks sitting around, ready for conversion into something or other, that you 'wasted' because otherwise the the factories would sit idle, the incoming resources wasted. Though there is a point I suppose to selling them off to the Chinese or the Spanish.
That's not really true though. The United Kingdom was using leftover outdated aircraft to make up for shortfalls all over the Empire, as were various other nations, such as Russia.
For example, Gloster Gladiator biplanes were used to defend the island of Malta against the Italians in 1940, long after Hurricanes and Spitfires were introduced, as well as seeing plenty of action in Africa. The Fairy Swordfish, an outdated torpedo biplane, saw widespread action throughout the entire war, despite the invention of more modern aircraft like the Barracuda.
Even if they didn't use these again, they would keep them for training or emergencies, and eventually start giving them away to smaller nations like Finland.
The same is true of tanks. The Covenanter A13, for example, is barely heard of because it was outdated as soon as it was produced and never saw combat. Instead of scrapping them though, the British kept over a thousand of them in Britain so that they would have plenty of armour in the case of a German invasion.
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Can't we convert the old chassis PZ1 to Pzjgrs?
Or is all we're getting basically the efficiency bonuses?
You can make new variants of know models, but the tanks already built are not upgradable...for the moment as they left the door open on this.
As they left the door open for battlefield captured equipment (not only upon surrender).
They'd reasonably use them in the Southeast Asian/Spanish/Subsaharan African theaters. Lend-lease them over there.
would you assign an FT-17 to any theater? look I can see assigning some obsolete gear to second line units and what not, but the main use of a lot of the starting gear is either to smelt for materials OR sell it to third world/minors/ass end of nowhere as it should be better than what they can build, or afford to build (though given the lack of roots in the tech tree... the minors should start the game with analogous gear)
Lend-lease is the best way. As the US, I got rid of several thousand outdated planes and like 50k infantry equipment. The Second Brazil Republic really appreciated it.
A prime example of a liason/recce/night attack type which was not meat for front line combat service.
But which was nevertheless used in night-bombing runs. The U2 was designed in 1928, the earliest bomber on the tech tree is 1933. Just because it was not intended for front line service did not mean it wasn't used in that capacity when the USSR was desperate. Which is exactly the point of the stockpile. You switch to newer planes when possible, but if you run out, you've always got the old ones.
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Night bombing back then was such a different game, before IR and planebound radar sets that could be fitted to a night fighter, that a Spwith Camel would have done a good job
And the post you quoted was talking about line planes, which no night fighter was really one being most of the time obsolete hand me downs...
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This entire topic is asking why you can't disband or destroy obsolete equipment. The answer is, because obsolete equipment can be, and in fact was still used during the war in offensive operations. Want to mimic the U2? Use basic TAC or CAS, set them to night bombing only. Done.
I'm not claiming that biplanes were regularly used as dogfighters or high-intensity bombers, just that there is an actual historical justification for why obsolete planes aren't immediately scrapped. The original post I quoted said "no one is going to issue WW1 vintage planes during 1943" and then the standard was changed to "for front line combat service"
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I always meant front line service, though it is my fault for not saying so explicitly, since that is what the game models. As I said later I do recognize that older aircraft still had utility in other roles. However my point was and still is that the game really only models the front line squadrons (as shown by lack of trainers, scout planes etc.) so keeping really old stuff available for deployment is not authentic for developed nations.
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