How to rearrange duchies in my realm?

[Ulyaoth]

In the game I'm playing that started as Count of Salerno, my third ruler inherited rather luckily, the kingdom of Germany. It was falling apart before his grandfather became king, which was kinda shortlived as he was already old, but anyway, once I became king a few duchies and independent counties pledged allegiance again, but the realm is a horrible mess, I have a ton of counties as direct vassals, counties in one duchy when they should be in another, etc. There's no option to force a county into vassalage of a duke it seems, and I don't want to start revoking titles and regranting them to fix it. Any other way?

 

[Galliun]

In the game I'm playing that started as Count of Salerno, my third ruler inherited rather luckily, the kingdom of Germany. It was falling apart before his grandfather became king, which was kinda shortlived as he was already old, but anyway, once I became king a few duchies and independent counties pledged allegiance again, but the realm is a horrible mess, I have a ton of counties as direct vassals, counties in one duchy when they should be in another, etc. There's no option to force a county into vassalage of a duke it seems, and I don't want to start revoking titles and regranting them to fix it. Any other way?

Oooh yeah, I know how you feel. I had that happen to me a few years ago. The best you can do is revoke and redistribute. It will take generations, and it will still be ugly. You could also edit your savefile, but I know nothing about that process, so I can't help you there.

 

[Kailvin]

My favourite way. If a bit gamey/cheating. F12 "byzantine" revoke all the titles. Re-arrange them as you so please. Teachnically a cheat but heck if i care. Id cheat to get my dukes to have nice borders

 

[postm00v]

Your other vassals take a loyalty hit when you revoke titles though, so be careful.

 

[DarthJF]

Slowly revoke and regrant titles as you see fit. There weren't magic solutions for real kings either.

 

[Galliun]

Your other vassals take a loyalty hit when you revoke titles though, so be careful.

Not only loyalty. I think your reputation goes up as well.

 

[Yosiu]

I revoke some titles and redistribute them. In my last game, each time when my kind died some vassals tended to break out, so it was good moment for changing their possesions. But both ways takes generations if you have big domain.

 

[Ulyaoth]

Just want to make sure I get it done right, I should revoke the duke titles and regrant them, and that gives the proper counties to said duke, correct?

 

[DarthJF]

Just want to make sure I get it done right, I should revoke the duke titles and regrant them, and that gives the proper counties to said duke, correct?

Yes. If you grant someone a duchy title then he gets all the counts in his duchy as vassals.

 

[Ivan Rogov]

There really should be a way of doing this without cheating or potential turmoil, but with CK2 coming out I guess that's a pipe dream.

 

[Hidden Legend]

Its not so bad I managed to get my byzantine lands heald by my ruler as demesene all the coast from theselonika to thracia and the coast fro nicea to synum (apologies for spelling) within a ten year in game period and not lose my vassals without cheating. I had to get rid of counts, dukes and deal with rebellions it was fun and my income is great.

Its about how you do this. For example check your loyalty of your vassals and the increases in loyalty. Revoke one title wait for loyalty to grow again, deal with revolts, keep revoking when appropriate then redistribute as needed that is what I do.