I have no colonies ATM either and I have a PU with France any strategies to gain the new world quickly or did I mess up?
How to make this austria game into a WC?
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I have no colonies ATM either and I have a PU with France any strategies to gain the new world quickly or did I mess up?
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WS cost too high :/
not much they have really only 1 colonial nation at most
Do I have to start over or do I have a chance?
Of course you have a chance... colonies are easy to steal. Dont fret over them, you do however have to concern your self with blocking them out of the Indian ocean. By no means do you want to let them get into those west pacific Isles... best bet however, is just annex them outright, even if you have to break truces.
Expect to lag way behind in ADM and DIP tech. In fact you may not want to ever buy a dip tech unless you are sitting at 999 diponies. Having to wait for dip points to win a war is the suck.
It's all about adding as many vassals to the empire as humany possibly. I guess you can only do Europe now... but In my previouse WC attempts, I had africa and india in the empire and vassalized. Was creeping up on 200+ imperial states.
Diplomatic, Influence, Expansion, Aristocratic, Espionage. Those better be your idea sets.
Expect to lag way behind in ADM and DIP tech. In fact you may not want to ever buy a dip tech unless you are sitting at 999 diponies. Having to wait for dip points to win a war is the suck.
It's all about adding as many vassals to the empire as humany possibly. I guess you can only do Europe now... but In my previouse WC attempts, I had africa and india in the empire and vassalized. Was creeping up on 200+ imperial states.
Diplomatic, Influence, Expansion, Aristocratic, Espionage. Those better be your idea sets.
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thanks guys also im accuring a large ammount of AE with france even though they are under my PU is that intended? its stopping me from expanding as fast as I could
they are hostile towards me btw
they are hostile towards me btw
Doesn't make sense you're accruing AE. Does make sense France is hostile. Just stay at war forever and they won't revolt though.
this is all I managed to get after 80 years I dont think Ill make it at this pace: how to speed it up?
also buggy units sitting in attriction messing up my HRE vassal swarm
France was getting AE earlier from my truce breaking fighting Spain/Britian and staggering the truce timers from the huge coalitions I got but wasn't able to acquire much in peace deals even with the diplomatic -20%
You need to free Perm if that's available, or if it's been culture-converted find any Russian minor and give it Perm's land. This makes Russia's Eastern provinces dirt cheap. A European Horde vassal is a good idea.
Which DLC do you have?
All of them. and good idea on the perm thing to lower WS cost. But how do I speed up the conquest of the old world? too many provinces in India and East asia I fear...
been transferring the occupation to my HRE vassals to avoid ADM coring cost, if one of my HRE vassals gets too strong can they DoW me? or does the HRE no internal wars disallow independence wars?
been transferring the occupation to my HRE vassals to avoid ADM coring cost, if one of my HRE vassals gets too strong can they DoW me? or does the HRE no internal wars disallow independence wars?
Sorta hijacking this thread. I'm having a similar game, started with Austria and became Italy. Castille is actually independent, just allied and in a war together. They managed to dodge my PU attempt twice and I'm considering breaking our alliance to go after them now. Portugal is under PU with about a 10% chance to inherit. Both of them have 2 CNs. England has 1 colony AFAIK, although large parts of NA aren't revealed since my ideas went Diplomatic->Influence->Administrative.
What ideas should I go for next? Should I go after Castille?
What ideas should I go for next? Should I go after Castille?
Disallows independence wars I believe, so feel free to feed them as much as you want. If they get too strong though, they might not support reforms.
EDIT - Source: I think someone once posted about a MP game as Germany where they were friends with human emperor Austria. Austria revoked and was getting ready to form the HRE, then the Germany player found they couldn't declare independence.
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don't make my mistake if you want to get their colonies too (you do) you'll need to continually declare war once they get smaller to get their colonies too or else theyll declare war for independence
imho wait for PU but I feel that could be risky
I got the same idea set even the administrative for mercenaries (so helpful in cleaning up vassal rebel stacks)
btw what were your starting moves with Austria? you're much farther than I was in 1554 and I PU'd france in 1474
The next I chose was a tie Expansion or Exploration depending on where you want to expand, the exploration gives you the CB against the pagans before they all turn catholic but the expansion will give you the CB against the asain and African tech groups
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I guess if I do declare war on Castille I will have to get exploration to make sure I can hunt down any colonies they plop. Hmmmm tough choice.
I was thinking religious or humanism though otherwise, since reformation is hitting really hard and I'm having religious unity problems, and I'm expanding into Orthodox and Sunni lands now so religious could give me a sweet dip free CB (although its not like I really need the diplo tech).
Starting move was basically not taking any provinces at all, tons of imperial liberation (got really lucky when Venice went ham all over Italy after eating about half of the Balkans from the Ottomans), so I got to release Milan like 3 seperate times lol), RMs to major powers to hopefully force a PU, and enforce peace to win defensive wars. I got really lucky with a France PU, when I ended up with a Wittelsbach dynasty and so did France and Portugal. I ended up switching back to von Hapsburg through event, but not before force PU France and Portugal. Managed to revoke in 1491, then promptly declare on Poland and munched on them by peacing out Lithuania by offering to revoke the last reform, allowing me to keep all the vassals without the -3 dip rep. Integrated Milan, a Tuscany that went ham, and fed then integrated Siena with Rome, released Stryia, switched culture, then formed Italy, then gave Rome back to the pope (why the hell does occupation of Rome not go away when Italy is formed? Why is Rome needed to form Italy anyways? Italy formed historically with everything but Rome anyways).
I was thinking religious or humanism though otherwise, since reformation is hitting really hard and I'm having religious unity problems, and I'm expanding into Orthodox and Sunni lands now so religious could give me a sweet dip free CB (although its not like I really need the diplo tech).
Starting move was basically not taking any provinces at all, tons of imperial liberation (got really lucky when Venice went ham all over Italy after eating about half of the Balkans from the Ottomans), so I got to release Milan like 3 seperate times lol), RMs to major powers to hopefully force a PU, and enforce peace to win defensive wars. I got really lucky with a France PU, when I ended up with a Wittelsbach dynasty and so did France and Portugal. I ended up switching back to von Hapsburg through event, but not before force PU France and Portugal. Managed to revoke in 1491, then promptly declare on Poland and munched on them by peacing out Lithuania by offering to revoke the last reform, allowing me to keep all the vassals without the -3 dip rep. Integrated Milan, a Tuscany that went ham, and fed then integrated Siena with Rome, released Stryia, switched culture, then formed Italy, then gave Rome back to the pope (why the hell does occupation of Rome not go away when Italy is formed? Why is Rome needed to form Italy anyways? Italy formed historically with everything but Rome anyways).
what WC are you going for? Achievement? World domination (no protectorates)? One-tag?Sorta hijacking this thread. I'm having a similar game, started with Austria and became Italy. Castille is actually independent, just allied and in a war together. They managed to dodge my PU attempt twice and I'm considering breaking our alliance to go after them now. Portugal is under PU with about a 10% chance to inherit. Both of them have 2 CNs. England has 1 colony AFAIK, although large parts of NA aren't revealed since my ideas went Diplomatic->Influence->Administrative.
What ideas should I go for next? Should I go after Castille?
If you're going for the achievement you're practically done, you just need to integrate Portugal sooner rather than later (subject of subject does not count for the achievement AFAIK). Once you integrate Byzantium, add to HRE and release Achaea and Morea as princes and feed them land in North Africa ASAP. They will have religious ideas.
Cut Muscovy in half and don't let the Europeans get around Africa and that's all the main targets wrapped up. Don't ignore Ethiopia, that region takes a lot of wars to clean up. Bankrupt Timurids if you can.
For fastest complete, abandon administrative after spam hiring mercs, then go exploration/expansion, which gives you enough CBs to mass-protectorate entire ROTW in 30 years.
thanks, I did around the same thing and revoked only 15 years later but somehow my conquests were more sluggish even though Ive been at near constant war with a couple 5 year breaks for WE cooldown
Both religious and humanism are good choices I didn't choose them because I'm keeping the stuff I personally down since im at -2 stability and ~5 WE for like the whole game it seems like
Your priority is not to let these westernise at all. If any other Euros have gotten there, you need to conquer their land and put it in a trade company. You may need to conquer more due to the current core westernisation bug though, as you need to take out every country with a core in your trading posts, and in doing so making sure you don't get any more cores from living countries. It may be possible to conquer them and then sell the provinces to surrounding Indian countries before coring.