How to get rid of Henry VI?

[Nairo]

Hello, I´m going to play my first try as England... But I don´t want to delay my progress because of some incompetent ruler. Does he start with heir?
I´ve never played EU before, I´m only CK II player and there is easy to get strong ruler. Education, elective monarchy etc or death in a battle.
Can I assign my ruler to lead my army into a battle? Because suddenly I could run with 1000 men into rebels, again and again, until he dies...
And how interregnum works? Could I get ruler from another dynasty? Castille-England personal union that sounds sick.
Or some decent noble from England would do the thing. And yes, I know that Lancasters are descendants of William the bastard (conqueror) or even Rollo, but so is Elizabeth II and nobody gives a fuck (She is also I think 27x great grandaughter of Ottokar Přemyslid II) because they survived through women.

 

[trcanberra]

Hello, I´m going to play my first try as England... But I don´t want to delay my progress because of some incompetent ruler. Does he start with heir?
I´ve never played EU before, I´m only CK II player and there is easy to get strong ruler. Education, elective monarchy etc or death in a battle.
Can I assign my ruler to lead my army into a battle? Because suddenly I could run with 1000 men into rebels, again and again, until he dies...
And how interregnum works? Could I get ruler from another dynasty? Castille-England personal union that sounds sick.
Or some decent noble from England would do the thing. And yes, I know that Lancasters are descendants of William the bastard (conqueror) or even Rollo, but so is Elizabeth II and nobody gives a fuck (She is also I think 27x great grandaughter of Ottokar Přemyslid II) because they survived through women.

Yes, you can make them leader in battle - seems one way to get rid of them.

 

[sskrypteia]

Yea just get your king killed. You don't need to do suicide, you can just attack using him and theres a good chance he'll die.

The issue with the personal union is that if you are the one with the regency, you will likely be the lesser member of the union. Which is not good, at all.

 

[HMatsunaga54]

You can't really change your ruler's stats like CK2, nor change any succession because you always have 1 heir. As for getting rid of Henry? You could always have him lead an army and hope he dies, but if dies without you could find yourself triggering the War of the Roses for your trouble.

 

[BobbyDylan]

Hello, I´m going to play my first try as England... But I don´t want to delay my progress because of some incompetent ruler. Does he start with heir?
I´ve never played EU before, I´m only CK II player and there is easy to get strong ruler. Education, elective monarchy etc or death in a battle.
Can I assign my ruler to lead my army into a battle? Because suddenly I could run with 1000 men into rebels, again and again, until he dies...
And how interregnum works? Could I get ruler from another dynasty? Castille-England personal union that sounds sick.
Or some decent noble from England would do the thing. And yes, I know that Lancasters are descendants of William the bastard (conqueror) or even Rollo, but so is Elizabeth II and nobody gives a fuck (She is also I think 27x great grandaughter of Ottokar Přemyslid II) because they survived through women.

I dont think he does start with an heir. So if he dies, you could spark the "war of the roses" event, a civil war.
My plan is to off him just as soon as he has an heir. Put him in the front of an army. I imagine something like this, at 1:33

[video=youtube;HMVzSyC0BLE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HMVzSyC0BLE&t=95[/video]

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Won't the War of the Roses become more likely if he dies? Is it really worth it?

Edit: Ninjad....

 

[sskrypteia]

yes definitely worth it. just for the interestingness of it, if anything.

 

[Nairo]

Is War of the Roses real problem? Could I just create large army and then trigger it and supress it? Or support Yorks?

 

[Raen]

Is War of the Roses real problem? Could I just create large army and then trigger it and supress it? Or support Yorks?

Not being a beta tester, I can't really answer that question. But based on actual history (and EU2 play), yes, it should be a very big problem.

 

[Katarian]

In EU2 the War of the Roses wasn't a massive problem on it's own. If you were also at war with France, Spain or Scotland it became a problem.