How to get rid of celestial empire?

[AnssiA]

I'm doing WC. I'd like to take the mandate, but then switch to other government. Is there any loophole/country formation/rebellion that allows it?

 

[KaiserWilhelmI]

Apparently if you have revolutionary rebels when taking the mandate you can let the rebels win and you can become a revolutionary empire. (You have to have the rebels before taking the mandate)

Another way is to switch to Polish culture and trigger the magnate rebels in Polish provinces with noble estate. That switches you to an elective monarchy.

 

[AnssiA]

Apparently if you have revolutionary rebels when taking the mandate you can let the rebels win and you can become a revolutionary empire. (You have to have the rebels before taking the mandate)

Another way is to switch to Polish culture and trigger the magnate rebels in Polish provinces with noble estate. That switches you to an elective monarchy.

Those two no longer unfortunately work, just checked the text files.

 

[Parapluman]

I thought Polish rebels were fixed in 1.23.
Anyway, last patch I used the Dutch government event to get rid of it. I formed the Netherlands, declared for the mandate, waited for the event to fire, took the empire and then clicked the option to switch to Dutch Republic. (You can also switch to Administrative Monarchy if you prefer)
Think this should still work. Just don't tell paradox

The event has a MTTH of around 8 years after you form the Netherlands, so you just have to be lucky and hope it doesnt fire before Ming is willing to surrender

 

[magni.]

well atm only 2 way's. work, Netherlands with RNG
and Hordes with out feudalism can just switch back by event

but other than that I think they have fixed every way, u were able to cheat your self out of it

 

[Parapluman]

well atm only 2 way's. work, Netherlands with RNG
and Hordes with out feudalism can just switch back by event

but other than that I think they have fixed every way, u were able to cheat your self out of it

The Netherlands is RNG, but it's very much RNG in your favor. 8 years is reasonable for winning the war against ming.

Another much more difficult way is if you reduce Ming to an OPM emperor you might be able to use the remove iqta event to switch government, so be muslim with iqta and form qing, as long as you can take the imperial crown withing the 2-3 months it takes for the event to expire (so artillery barage + Assault fort) it might be possible to take the mandate and change your government.

Though I haven't tested this and I know iqta's where tweaked somewhat in 1.24 so aside from this being very tricky to pull of it might not work in the first place.

 

[Parapluman]

Just tested it Iqta way works too:
Though you have only 3 months to win the war. So best saved for a tiny emperor

 

[KaiserWilhelmI]

Those two no longer unfortunately work, just checked the text files.

Oh! It's been a while since I've done any tag switching. Paradox really sees all.