How to get Reformed religion quickly?

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Hi I'm playing Brandenburg in 1.8 and its 1502 so I'm expecting Luther soon

In past games I've played Catholic and Protestant, never Reformed so I'd appreciate advice on how best to do it.

Do I embrace Protestantism first? any key buildings, decisions or advisers; or ledgers to watch
 

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Wait until 10 years after reformation and it will proc, sometimes earlier.

Don't convert to Protestant as you incur a 10 year religion cool down.

Reformed is good if you have the DLC, poor if you don.t
 

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Religious Ideas, don't take anything that increases stab cost, Trade is good too, they have a powerful religious buff called fervor, each positive point of stabilitygives 1 fervor point per month, a religious idea gives some monthly fervor, you can spend 5 fervor per month for sizeable bonuses, you do not need to convert to protestant first, Catholic > reformed is fine, try to be one of the first for the center of reformation.
 

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Religious Ideas, don't take anything that increases stab cost, Trade is good too, they have a powerful religious buff called fervor, each positive point of stabilitygives 1 fervor point per month, a religious idea gives some monthly fervor, you can spend 5 fervor per month for sizeable bonuses, you do not need to convert to protestant first, Catholic > reformed is fine, try to be one of the first for the center of reformation.

This. You don't even need to get Religious Ideas. Just keep stability and religious unity up and you'll get a good amount of fervor. As for the center of reformation thing, they're really handy at converting your nation if you're large. In my first AoW game as France, both mine and Switzerland's centers were converting my lands at the same time which was handy as a I conquered land and didn't need to worry too much about conversion. However, in my experience, the Centers of Reformation bonuses and conversions all stop at 1650 or so. The little icon you can see when zoomed out is still their but the buildings/statues are gone and no more bonus. The centers that aren't converted keep the little icon thing to show who started/spread the religion however (Note that this is speculation).
 

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Centres of Reformation aren't always very good, though. I went Reformed in my current Sweden game, and I got a Centre of Reformation.


In Kola.
 

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Reformed is so OP, it is very easy to stay max fervor all the time meaning permanent bonuses. Like seriously it is SO much better than any other religion.... The others really need a buff, especially Christianity, the cardinal bonuses really aren't worth it. Muslim is decent too if it wasn't so unreliable gaining or losing piety all the time. Reformed also has the bonus of being able to stay defender of the faith... but not defend anyone because usually only Scotland becomes Reformed...
 

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Reformed is so OP, it is very easy to stay max fervor all the time meaning permanent bonuses. Like seriously it is SO much better than any other religion.... The others really need a buff, especially Christianity, the cardinal bonuses really aren't worth it. Muslim is decent too if it wasn't so unreliable gaining or losing piety all the time. Reformed also has the bonus of being able to stay defender of the faith... but not defend anyone because usually only Scotland becomes Reformed...

Yes, but if you outlive the others to become Pope pretty much forever, then it shines really brightly, especially with the new mechanics. In my late game Spain where I just stayed Defender of the Faith whenever I could I was a huge Catholic country with tons of cardinals and was constantly Pope, OP.

Reformed is good I guess, but it's it's not as fun as trying to remain pure!
 

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Centres of Reformation aren't always very good, though. I went Reformed in my current Sweden game, and I got a Centre of Reformation.


In Kola.

hmph... should probably be designed so it appears in your highest base tax province or any province with a base tax of 6-7 or higher, I say richest base tax though because OPM might convert to reformed first.
 

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Swedish/Norwegian centers of reformation occasionally spawns quite far away. Moreover it seems that they possess some kind of range, so the stop converting when Sweden/Norway/Baltic cost is converted. :(
 

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My understanding from center is, the spawn, than they transform all landconnect lands around them, and after this they radomly target provinces in europe.

There is a maximum distance they can convert over, so remote Catholic nations like Scotland and Norway having centers of reformation will have little overall effect.
 

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I was playing a finland game.....I got one in ingria, pretty amusing.

then I stacked reformed morale bonus with defensive and their NIs....gg
 

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Hi I'm playing Brandenburg in 1.8 and its 1502 so I'm expecting Luther soon

In past games I've played Catholic and Protestant, never Reformed so I'd appreciate advice on how best to do it.

Do I embrace Protestantism first? any key buildings, decisions or advisers; or ledgers to watch
Do not go Protestant. In fact, go annex Bohemia (highly prone to going Protestant) to keep their Center of Reformation from messing with you. You want to sit out Lutheranism and keep Catholic until Reformed is enabled - I'm pretty sure Centers of Reformation only (or at least primarily) target Catholic provinces. The moment the event "The Reformation Branches Out" fires, convert to Reformed to get your own Center of Reformation and have your missionaries work overtime to convert everything, especially the provinces farthest from your Center of Reformation.
Thanks for the advice

could you please elaborate

Which DLC? I have AOW.
Wealth of Nations. Without it, Reformed doesn't get its Fervor system and kinda sucks.
 

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Yes, but if you outlive the others to become Pope pretty much forever, then it shines really brightly, especially with the new mechanics. In my late game Spain where I just stayed Defender of the Faith whenever I could I was a huge Catholic country with tons of cardinals and was constantly Pope, OP.

Reformed is good I guess, but it's it's not as fun as trying to remain pure!

But if you can do that you probably don't need the bonuses :p