Does anyone know for sure what the old values were for retinues? I'd like to know so I can tweak my files to match that.
Pre-Charlemagne retinues, I mean.
Pre-Charlemagne retinues, I mean.
How to get Old Retinues back?
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Try reverting to an old patch, then copy the retinue file and go back to the current version (or whichever version you are using) and mod in the old values.
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How did the AI deal with old retinues? Did it create terrifying doomstacks out of them, or was it reasonable? I'm afraid I do not remember.
Gamebreaking in the hands of players who chose to, or knew how to break the game.
I may have put half a thousand hours into this game... But maybe in my case I just lack the attention span to keep up a long term game that usually leads to the more gamebreaking amounts of soldiers.
Then again, I also did silly self-imposed challenges like creating Israel and such. I have the economic acumen of a baked potato.
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Retinues were perfect when released, then they were nerfed into the ground and became only useful for people that can raise so many levies they don't need retinues anyway.... So stupid.
Now if you want, say, 1000 housecarls, you need to be able to raise 40k levies anyway, so they really do nothing for you since their % of your total force is so small.
So cool when a feature you paid for gets basically rendered useless.
Now if you want, say, 1000 housecarls, you need to be able to raise 40k levies anyway, so they really do nothing for you since their % of your total force is so small.
So cool when a feature you paid for gets basically rendered useless.
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The original system led to a bit too large and cheap retinues (as there was no maintenance cost), but I agree that the current retinue sizes are rather sad. However, you can mod the amount of retinues gained (in the defines, from different buildings, etc.), though of course that will change the checksum and make achievements unobtainable.
Can raise 20K(11K from demesne) levies in my current game and have 4.4K Andalusian cavalry retinue. You need to take points in military organization.
It's around 40% of my demesne levies, but more useful than them.
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I find the amount of retinues you can have is limited more by your income than by the retinue cap.
Kinda why I think the reinforcement rate needs speeding up, the cost needs reducing, and the rate of cash loss for standing army should be less.
You can find these values in the defines.lua within the "common" folder of CK2.
Uh... perfect? Like giving you a lowborn general with decent stats for EVERY retinue unit you have created?
However the system looked much cooler back then. There was this total number of soldiers and when your 3 15k retinues had lots of losses you could actually see this number go down and IIRC even see the levies in your realm getting smaller from replenishing the losses of the retinue. It's kinda sad the devs changed this to an arbitrary combination of realm size, technology and buildings.
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So, in essense, at release there was a practical cap on retinues, then this was removed, then they were nerfed into the ground?
Similar story with factions, then.
Similar story with factions, then.
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